We Can Still Crack the Top Ten

[Mazrimiv]

Just now, CWood21 said:

Congrats, you've either benched our most consistent WR (Doubs), our most invested and biggest threat (Watson), or the most recent (Reed) WR.  That's excellent team building.

Just to clarify something, I am by no means in the draft Harrison camp.

[CWood21]

6 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

Just to clarify something, I am by no means in the draft Harrison camp.

Oh, I was speaking more if your choices are to take Marvin Harrison or trade the pick for a haul (and grab your LT).

[squire12]

25 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

41 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

In a world where MHJ is on the roster, I am benching Doubs and not losing any sleep over it.  I feel like I'm always going to want to be upgrading him anyway.

 

45 minutes ago, packfanfb said:

Just pick one out of a hat and move on. From the moment he steps on the field at the first OTA, Harrison would be a better possession guy than Doubs, better deep threat than Watson and better slot player than Reed. We're not talking about fitting in Tee Higgins or Brandon Aiyuk here, Harrison is likely going to be an instant Pro Bowl level player. 

Congrats, you've either benched our most consistent WR (Doubs), our most invested and biggest threat (Watson), or the most recent (Reed) WR.  That's excellent team building.

Lets see how the next 10 games play out.   Lamenting which WR you might have to relegate to the 4th WR if MHJ is somehow selected by GB in the 2024 draft when over the next 10 games seems silly when the 3 /4 players in question probably sort themselves out as to which 1 gets lowered on the depth chart.  

[MantyWrestler]

1 hour ago, CWood21 said:

For those that are adamant in the MHJ camp, which WR are you throwing out of the rotation?  We're not going to run a lot 4 WR sets, so which WR are you effectively benching?  Is it our most consistent WR in Romeo Doubs?  Is it the biggest big play threat in Christian Watson?  Or is it the guy we just invested a SRP into in Jayden Reed?

Right now? Watson. Hopefully he improves on last year… this year is terrible, last year showed promise. 

[MantyWrestler]

35 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

 

Congrats, you've either benched our most consistent WR (Doubs), our most invested and biggest threat (Watson), or the most recent (Reed) WR.  That's excellent team building.

If MHJ is anywhere near the player Moss was, who cares? He’d be way better than any of those guys right now. 

If we would pick him, the WR would be

MHJ

Doubs or Watson, (if Watson gets healthy and improves on Last year)

Reed in the slot. 

[Mr Bad Example]

2 hours ago, thrILL! said:

In an alternate universe, we fire MLF, hire Deion Sanders as HC and draft Shedeur lol. 
 

*not advocating this btw lol

If this nonsense happened I'd become a Lions fan

[packfanfb]

20 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Lets see how the next 10 games play out.   Lamenting which WR you might have to relegate to the 4th WR if MHJ is somehow selected by GB in the 2024 draft when over the next 10 games seems silly when the 3 /4 players in question probably sort themselves out as to which 1 gets lowered on the depth chart.  

Harrison isn't going to be a Packer anyways. I doubt Gutey would take him at 10, let alone 2-3.

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, CWood21 said:

You can't selectively choose what to ignore and what not to ignore.  Even if you believe he was 100% justified in the fight in HS, knowing that you need to be squeaky clean and then busted for a failed marijuana test is a choice.  And that's coming from someone who is largely indifferent to marijuana (not a discussion for here).  He knew he was on thin ice, and he still risked it.  That's pretty much status quo for most teenage boys.

Just because everybody else is a moron when it comes to kids who've had a bit of a past doesn't mean I have to follow suit. Howie Roseman gets it. 

He was drafted TWO spots after we took Vonnie Holliday. Seems the Vikings weight the risk/reward and went for it. I'm guessing they wouldn't want a do over on that selection. Eighteen other teams passed on a hall of famer. 

[packfanfb]

50 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

 

Congrats, you've either benched our most consistent WR (Doubs), our most invested and biggest threat (Watson), or the most recent (Reed) WR.  That's excellent team building.

So you wouldn't take AJ Brown on your team right now because you're worried about stunting Doubs or Watson? Who are they again?

[ChaRisMa]

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

For those that are adamant in the MHJ camp, which WR are you throwing out of the rotation?  We're not going to run a lot 4 WR sets, so which WR are you effectively benching?  Is it our most consistent WR in Romeo Doubs?  Is it the biggest big play threat in Christian Watson?  Or is it the guy we just invested a SRP into in Jayden Reed?

This is the best counter argument to MHJ. 

Best reasoning I can formulate:

Depth is nice, this is PackIRs.

MHJ is a crown jewel piece while those guys are all WR2 material(possible exception to Watson but he’s still aimed at 2025).

You don’t pass on low risk, high ceiling players.

Anyone else got anything?

Who’re the blue chips in this draft you can put with him? Alt and Williams?

[HokieHigh]

17 minutes ago, MantyWrestler said:

If MHJ is anywhere near the player Moss was, who cares? He’d be way better than any of those guys right now. 

If we would pick him, the WR would be

MHJ

Doubs or Watson, (if Watson gets healthy and improves on Last year)

Reed in the slot. 

Mhj is more santana moss than randy moss 

[Zycho32]

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

For those that are adamant in the MHJ camp, which WR are you throwing out of the rotation?  We're not going to run a lot 4 WR sets, so which WR are you effectively benching?  Is it our most consistent WR in Romeo Doubs?  Is it the biggest big play threat in Christian Watson?  Or is it the guy we just invested a SRP into in Jayden Reed?

Not officially part of the MHJ camp, but I see the main tandem as MHJ/Doubs, which would probably get about 75% of the snaps. Watson would see the most reduced role, around the 50-60% range, around the same as Reed, the two becoming differing changeups that can be thrown out there in the rotation. Wicks gets the leftovers as a #5. Heath might hang on as a ST Guy, Toure sure as crap won't.

My proof of this is in the present snap counts for the receivers involved this year. Doubs and Watson have played 75-ish percent of possible snaps. Reed has 60%, Wicks 45%. Toure and Heath just miss 25%.

[Old Guy]

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

For those that are adamant in the MHJ camp, which WR are you throwing out of the rotation?  We're not going to run a lot 4 WR sets, so which WR are you effectively benching?  Is it our most consistent WR in Romeo Doubs?  Is it the biggest big play threat in Christian Watson?  Or is it the guy we just invested a SRP into in Jayden Reed?

Are you serious? It's not like a team can't get enough snaps for 4 guys. Not to mention, Watson can't stay on the field and this year when he's been on the field he's been a nothingburger. 

It's not like we have Driver, Nelson, Jones, Jennings and Finley on the roster and then drafted Cobb. How in the hell could we ever build a team to contend with that many resources dedicated to the WR/TE room. The five guys were established as Bonafide NFL players when we took Cobb. None of the current guys are established. 

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by Old Guy

[thrILL!]

14 minutes ago, HokieHigh said:

Mhj is more santana moss than randy moss 

Say you don’t watch CFB without saying you don’t watch CFB. 

[beekay414]

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

For those that are adamant in the MHJ camp, which WR are you throwing out of the rotation?  We're not going to run a lot 4 WR sets, so which WR are you effectively benching?  Is it our most consistent WR in Romeo Doubs?  Is it the biggest big play threat in Christian Watson?  Or is it the guy we just invested a SRP into in Jayden Reed?

You find a coach that'll give you more 4 WR sets tbqh