NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, EAGLES3658 said: Is Hurts being the best QB while trailing and Dak being the worst a team stat as well? Seems important to be able to play from behind. Are we going to pretend like the Niners game doesn’t specifically have basically everything to do with that? We all know the Dallas offense had to work on finding its identity at the start of the season. It’s funny — when Dak has had a history of carving teams up for big yardage in comeback attempts it was always dismissed as garbage, empty stats. But now that we have one game weighting the narrative against him we’re going to pretend like he can’t play from behind. We all know that he can. And it’s questionable to hold it against him that he has had cases of helping his team tear opponents up early and put them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Stroud baby! Fair, it’ll be interesting to see how things go for him going into December and onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Are we going to pretend like the Niners game doesn’t specifically have basically everything to do with that? That's true, Dak was super clutch against Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Mahomes Hurts Jackson Lawrence Stroud my top 5 mvp candidates What has he done to be here Edited November 13, 2023 by jonnguy2015 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Jordan Love has gotta be up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jeezla said: That's true, Dak was super clutch against Arizona. Again, the offense was finding its identity with a new OC. They moved the ball well, they just had some struggles in the RZ early in the season. Let’s not pretend like Dak Prescott can’t move the football when we have an abundance of evidence saying otherwise. The point remains the same that the Niners game is weighting his passer rating in that situation. It’s absurd to pretend like Dak is literally the worst QB in the league playing from behind because of one game this season. It shouldn’t even be a talking point. Dak is killing it, period. Edited November 13, 2023 by NoFlyZone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 As much as it shocks me to say Goff has to be in top 5. making clutch throws on 4th down today and just having control of this offense. Not sure he will end up in my top 5 but shocked I have him there now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, jonnguy2015 said: What has he done to be here Besides leading the Jags to the 5th best record in the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Besides leading the Jags to the 5th best record in the NFL? All 3 of their losses have been 2+ touchdown losses (including today losing by 30+), and their wins are pretty much exclusively against bad/below average teams sans Buffalo. He has 9 passing touchdowns through 10 weeks. Am I missing something here? Is there some additional context like with Lamar where the stats really don't tell the whole story? Edited November 13, 2023 by AFlaccoSeagulls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: It’s absurd to pretend like Dak is literally the worst QB in the league playing from behind because of one game this season "Dak isnt the worst qb, therfore he should be an mvp candidate" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, AFlaccoSeagulls said: All 3 of their losses have been 2+ touchdown losses (including today losing by 30+). He has 9 passing touchdowns through 10 weeks. Am I missing something here? Is there some additional context like with Lamar where the stats really don't tell the whole story? He didn’t give up 37 and 34 to the Texans and 49ers. Only lost by 8 to the Chiefs fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: He has 9 passing touchdowns through 10 weeks. Am I missing something here? No. He's played better than his numbers but you ain't winning MVP in today's game with roughly 20 passing TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Besides leading the Jags to the 5th best record in the NFL? Tua and Purdy have the same record, both have better stats, and one just outplayed him today. Dak, Pickett, and Geno are also 6-3 but you'd be laughed out of the room for suggesting any of them are MVP candidates Edited November 13, 2023 by jonnguy2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: He didn’t give up 37 and 34 to the Texans and 49ers. Only lost by 8 to the Chiefs fwiw. No, but he did score 17 and 3, and curious you mention how much the defense gave up in those games and not the Chiefs game where he scored 9 points. Edited November 13, 2023 by jonnguy2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, jonnguy2015 said: No, but he did score 17 and 3, and curious you mention how much the defense gave up in those games and not the Chiefs game where he scored 9 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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