rob_shadows Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: You do realize that's partially due to ball placement right? Especially on those last two... There are very few receivers who could manage to get their feet down on those because Trevor led them to close to the back of the end zone with the throw. And for the record I like Lawrence and expected him to ascend to the rank of the elite QBs this year but so far he hasn't done that. Edited November 13, 2023 by rob_shadows 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: These are all good coverage by the Chiefs defense and/or overthrows by Trevor. He's hardly the first QB who's had to deal with either 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Stroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Malfatron said: "Dak isnt the worst qb, therfore he should be an mvp candidate" That isn’t what I said at all. It was a specific point about someone bringing up his passer rating when trailing this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, jonnguy2015 said: These are all good coverage by the Chiefs defense and/or overthrows by Trevor. He's hardly the first QB who's had to deal with either Find me someone who dealt with 4 in one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Find me someone who dealt with 4 in one game. Can't find a specific game where a QB overthrew 4 would-be TD passes, but I remember Lamar losing to the Steelers because his receivers were dropping passes left and right Edited November 13, 2023 by jonnguy2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) Hate to burst your bubble there NFZ but 1 game vs the 49ers didn't make Quote It’s absurd to pretend like Dak is literally the worst QB in the league playing from behind because of one game this season That stat/fact was accumulated over the last 9 gms. League MVP don't have stats like that, usually the opposite. Edited November 13, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Not good enough ball placement. Lawrence has been trash this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Find me someone who dealt with 4 in one game. Steve Young 1998 NFC Wild Card game. And that was just from one player who also had a fumble lol. Edited November 13, 2023 by TecmoSuperJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: Hate to burst your bubble there NFZ but 1 game vs the 49ers didn't make That stat/fact was accumulated over the last 9 gms. League MVP don't have stats like that, usually the opposite. How many games have they been trailing in this season for any appreciable amount of time? The Niners game is the bulk of the stats. You’re essentially trying to define him off of one game where the entire team got punched in the mouth.. at a time where the offense was finding their identity under a new scheme and OC. As if we haven’t seen Dak put up good numbers playing from behind.. and then people just dismiss it as “garbage time stats”. Again, using one game to essentially say he is among the league’s worst is ridiculous. You wouldn’t define Patrick Mahomes solely by how he played against the Jets this season, and you shouldn’t do so for how Dak played against the Niners, either. It would be one thing if Dallas was in a position to play from behind for a reasonable sample size this year and Dak struggled to deliver.. but that very, very obviously has not been reflected in the season. To act like Dak is a sub 60 passer rating QB if his team is behind is irrational. Edited November 13, 2023 by NoFlyZone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///mcompact Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: How many games have they been trailing in this season for any appreciable amount of time? The Niners game is the bulk of the stats. You’re essentially trying to define him off of one game where the entire team got punched in the mouth.. at a time where the offense was finding their identity under a new scheme and OC. As if we haven’t seen Dak put up good numbers playing from behind.. and then people just dismiss it as “garbage time stats”. Again, using one game to essentially say he is among the league’s worst is ridiculous. You wouldn’t define Patrick Mahomes solely by how he played against this season, and you shouldn’t do so for how Dak played against the Niners, either. It would be one thing if Dallas was in a position to play from behind for a reasonable sample size this year and Dak struggled to deliver.. but that very, very obviously has not been reflected in the season. To act like Dak is a sub 60 passer rating QB if his team is behind is irrational. Dude, don't waste your energy trying to rationalize anything Cowboys in this forum. It's pointless. Edited November 13, 2023 by ///mcompact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I don’t understand. This is supposed to be a thread about the MVP race; why are we talking about Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, notthatbluestuff said: I don’t understand. This is supposed to be a thread about the MVP race; why are we talking about Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence? Does it not make sense to discuss candidates? Whether they be the current favorite or someone with the potential? As far as QBs go (and we all know QBs are heavily favored), Dak has absolutely been playing his way into that conversation. Edited November 13, 2023 by NoFlyZone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Does it not make sense to discuss candidates? Whether they be the current favorite or someone with the potential? As far as QBs go (and we all know QBs are heavily favored), Dak has absolutely been playing his way into that conversation. We absolutely should be discussing candidates - hence my confusion. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) Why do you keep saying 1 game vs SF? It's been 2 1/2 games. Entire 49ers game Entire AZ game 1/2 the Eagles game In otherwords. When the Cowboys don't play with the lead, front run on 💩 teams 6x. Daks overall QB play suffers because of it. Before you chime in about his gm vs the Eagles it can't be true, it's the same defense that has Washington Fans believing Sam Howell is actually the real deal. In the end all 3 gms resulted in loses. Edited November 13, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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