bosko1616 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Lately I’ve been hearing a lot of negatives from UCLA about Rosen’s character so much so it might eclipse Mayfields negatives. I can deal with a lot obviously I’m a browns fan. But if. Guy doesn’t love football. He won’t be great. Mayfield wants to be great and from what Ive heard guys would run through a wall for him. Is there N argument for mayfield over Rosen and Darnold at number one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Yes yes there is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Taking him over Darnold would be such a Browns move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, NateDawg said: Taking him over Darnold would be such a Browns move. I get the feeling he’s going to stay. I think he wants too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 We are such a dumpster fire I guarantee it happens. Our fanbase was obsessed with Manziel (even though I knew he’d be awful on and off the field). Our fans are not smart and go with emotions over anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkk Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 straight white trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Baker isn’t Johnny. Like at all. He’s more Russell Wilson then Johnny. I’m just trying to create a convo. I really really like Rosen but I worry about his passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, candyman93 said: We are such a dumpster fire I guarantee it happens. Our fanbase was obsessed with Manziel (even though I knew he’d be awful on and off the field). Our fans are not smart and go with emotions over anything else. Well Kizer seems like a good dude and he makes Johnny Manziel look like Johnny Unitas by comparison on the field. At least Manziel was fairly accurate, we haven't had a QB that gave us real hope since he was on the roster. If Mayfield isn't a problem off of the field and to my knowledge he isn't, I'd gladly take a Manziel-like skilled QB on the field. He certainly showed that he had a chance to be really good even though he hadn't reached that when he self destructed. Stand down, Doug Flutie. Take a break, George Reed. Just give it up, Jackie Parker. A new king of the CFL could be coming. Maybe. Hamilton Tiger-Cats coach June Jones, who has signed a three-year deal after completing his stint as the interim coach, believes that quarterback Johnny Manziel could end up being historically great in Canada. “I think he’d be the best player to ever play up here,” Jones said, via CFL.ca. “He can throw it and he can run it like nobody ever has been able to do.” The Tiger-Cats flirted with signing Manziel during the season, but they never did. They apparently intend to try to do so for 2018. “I think he’s a phenomenal player,” Jones said. “I think it was kind of unfortunate what happened to him in the NFL, some of that was by his own means, too.” Maybe he will clean up his act and get another shot in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, candyman93 said: We are such a dumpster fire I guarantee it happens. Our fanbase was obsessed with Manziel (even though I knew he’d be awful on and off the field). Our fans are not smart and go with emotions over anything else. Were they? I don't remember that being the case but that was also several years ago. IIRC, this forum was pretty split when we drafted him. Personally, I was so-so on Manziel. I still think he could have been a decent QB in this league if he wasn't such an idiot off the field. But what does Manziel have to do with Mayfield? Just the off the field antics? If Darnold returns to USC, then who knows? It's entirely possible that Mayfield would be in consideration. But if Darnold does declare for the draft, then I think it's extremely unlikely that we pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 My biggest problem with Arnold is he has such an elongated throwing motion he’s going to fumble a lot. Plus he realize way to much on instinct. He just goes with the flow instead of the play sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Don’t usually agree, but I believe Cowherd is 100% right on his prediction about Mayfield starting at 3:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Cowherd getting posted in here? Where am I? Mayfield is only the most efficient and productive QB in NCAA history, so I think the argument should by why he isn't worth the #1 overall pick. Because his football resume and film says he clearly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 To be fair Baker Mayfield wasn't talented enough for a scholarship to Texas tech and had to walk on, he also had to walk on to Oklahoma. He is also going to turn that into a Heisman trophy and maybe a championship. That doesn't make sense. So why is he defying the odds? I wanna know because he has proven himself time and time again even though he doesn't pass the eye test until he puts the uniform on. I'm not sure how much that should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 not number 1 overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 There is most definitely a case. Size is the only thing holding this guy back...attitude? He's no Johnny Football, it's all on the field, and it is such a fierce, competitive mentality. I used to knock him, even after he beat OSU I talked down about him. But the sheer consistency on his part left me no choice except to be impressed. His accuracy is unparalleled. Rosen, Darnold, they make big-time plays. They just do not do so to the same degree that Mayfield has. There's a reason Mayfield has his team in the college playoffs and the other two do not...Mind you, after losing two high-caliber RB's and his top receiver while STILL taking his game to another level. Damn right He played in the Big 12. That doesn't make his passes more accurate. It doesn't make his decisions any more intelligent. The kid straight made plays in any situation he's been thrown. I don't think he'll go #1, but there's gotta be a case. If I'm the Browns and there's someone I highly value as the best player in this draft that isn't a QB, I'm taking that guy...and I'm holding out hope that Baker somehow falls to the HOU pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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