NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, Darbsk said: There’s zero proof he doesn’t, but there is some evidence, so that is not a very good argument my friend. In fact, his changes to O and D have produced results so he seems better at Xs and Os than McDaniels as he did it with the same staff apart from a rookie OC that’s never called plays……. 6 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: He didn’t do anything x’s and o’s after McDaniels left. All Graham buddy. The massive defensive improvement came as a result of playing against terrible offenses with backup QB's basically every week after AP took over, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: He didn’t do anything x’s and o’s after McDaniels left. All Graham buddy. Zero proof that he didn’t. There is proof that the defense went from #22 under McDaniels to #1 under AP Offense had its best outings under AP with a mid round rookie starting and an OC who never called plays 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: He's booty bro bro In other words, you got owned and have no retort, as per tradition. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, bucksavage1 said: Zero proof that he didn’t. There is proof that the defense went from #22 under McDaniels to #1 under AP Offense had its best outings under AP with a mid round rookie starting and an OC who never called plays Zero proof that he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: In other words, you got owned and have no retort, as per tradition. You're hyping up defensive improvement in a 4 game Covid season. Why hadn't any team been interested in him as a DC if he's some coaching guru? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: LMAO What? Lay the pipe down, bro. In 2021 when Pierce was given full DC duties, ASU ranked 22nd overall in defense. In 2020, they were 32nd. Before that, he wasn't calling any shots on D whatsoever and they ranked 35th and 50th in 2019 and 2018 respectively. The longer AP was there, the better they got. Amd considering Herm Edwards was running guys off left and right, it's amazing that they went from 50th to 35th to 32nd to 22nd at all. AP left and they tumbled to 107th. Dude is the antithesis of everyone's favorite Patrick Graham. His units actually show year to year improvement and fall apart once he's gone instead of getting better. Tell me you didn't do any research whatsoever without telling me you didn't do any research whatsoever. The biggest JMD/Jimmy G supporters making up things because he completely turned around McDaniels incompetence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 28 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: We will find out. I’d rather tale a gamble on an x’s and o’s guy than a purely motivational guy like Pierce. We know Johnson can have a great offense, whether he’s a great leader is to be determined. As for Pierce, we know he’s a great leader, but we also know he’s NOT an x’s and o’s guy. Ben Johnson is the way better gamble. If he turns out to be a true leader, you have a Top 5-10 HC in the league. how do you know that though? Former starting MLB for a SB winner, that defense improved greatly as an interim HC doesnt know Xs and Os? You can knock him on offense a bit but you cant tell me dude dont know defense. I think its weird we just automatically assume former players dont know Xs and Os like they havent been having chalk talk since middle school lol but these guys like Johnson that havent played at the highest level are the answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, bucksavage1 said: The biggest JMD/Jimmy G supporters making up things because he completely turned around McDaniels incompetence. 5-4 is still mid especially with losses to Minshew and Dobbs with the playoffs potentially on the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Geezy said: how do you know that though? Former starting MLB for a SB winner, that defense improved greatly as an interim HC doesnt know Xs and Os? You can knock him on offense a bit but you cant tell me dude dont know defense. I think its weird we just automatically assume former players dont know Xs and Os like they havent been having chalk talk since middle school lol but these guys like Johnson that havent played at the highest level are the answer. He clearly has zero offensive X and Os 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: You're hyping up defensive improvement in a 4 game Covid season. Why hadn't any team been interested in him as a DC if he's some coaching guru? And you're saying things that are demonstrably bull****. Edited January 10 by ronjon1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, Geezy said: but these guys like Johnson that havent played at the highest level are the answer. 🎯🎯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Everyone watch out! We got the guy who spent all year petting his pet Jimmy and the guy who swore Malik Willis was a 1st round QB doubting our HC using easily defeated nonsense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 https://x.com/PFF_College/status/1745206445069554084?s=20 Nick Saban retiring. I know he was a longshot to be the Raiders HC. Just thought I'd share. (Didn't know where I should post this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: And you're saying things that are demonstrably bull****. He's such a guru that 0 teams in the NFL wanted to hire him as their DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The massive defensive improvement came as a result of playing against terrible offenses with backup QB's basically every week after AP took over, lol. not sure if this is true. JMD played against broncos(19), billls(6), steelers(28), chargers(21), packers(12), pats (31), bears(18) lions(5) AP - giants(30), jets(29), dolphins(2) , kc(15), vikes(22), chargers(21), kc(15), colts (10), den(19) jmd average strength of O played 17.5 AP - average strength of O played 18.1 Then you could argue KC would be ranked better if they didnt have to play the #1 D since week 9 twice 🤣 We wasted an incredibly easy schedule this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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