Scoremore Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 11:44 PM, Jaire_Island said: Shall we hire Mike Shanny as a consultant to hire DC for Lafluer? Should consult with Aaron Rodgers. After all he knows DC's better than anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: MLF needs to be careful here. He needs to make a change, but his next DC might sink MLFs ship. You can't hire a risky candidate. You gotta know the guy you bring in can elevate this defense. Any choice he makes carries risk, and getting it wrong again will absolutely get him fired. There is no such thing as "knowing" the next guy will elevate the defense beyond the general truth that the bar has been set very low by Barry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: MLF needs to be careful here. He needs to make a change, but his next DC might sink MLFs ship. You can't hire a risky candidate. You gotta know the guy you bring in can elevate this defense. He hired a risky candidate he knew to begin with in Barry!! If he doesn't get a quality guy in there his ship will sink regardless. Make the frickin change and don't make the same mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamSamn Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 it's been said, but I'd sure like to see Jim Leonhard in the DC chair- at Wisconsin his D was really disruptive based on linebacker play... I think he would turn Rashan Gary and Quay Walker into all-pro consideration type of producers i'm not interested in retreads like Zimmer, (though I wouldn't hate Lovie Smith) also not interested in Fangio guys as they've been exposed, and maybe that could be argued about Leonhard, who came from a Ryan family system, but I'm not so certain. Whoever it is, I hope they come in with an attitude. This defense has had a reputation of being soft for a few years now- and I actually think they have some young players on D that play with some edge and intensity to use as building blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Mazrimiv said: Any choice he makes carries risk, and getting it wrong again will absolutely get him fired. There is no such thing as "knowing" the next guy will elevate the defense beyond the general truth that the bar has been set very low by Barry. There are some more riskier than others. You want a guy with a proven track record if possible. A guy like Leonhard or Al Harris is risky. They might turn out great, but would you put your job on the line for either of them? Tough call, but he's gotta get rid of Barry for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Any choice he makes carries risk, and getting it wrong again will absolutely get him fired. There is no such thing as "knowing" the next guy will elevate the defense beyond the general truth that the bar has been set very low by Barry. Whats your new avatar from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's worth remembering that MLF is part of the problem here. His obsession with the Fangio defense is what brought Barry here in the first place. I think Staley being the next guy is a very real possibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerbacker87 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Palmy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: It's worth remembering that MLF is part of the problem here. His obsession with the Fangio defense is what brought Barry here in the first place. I think Staley being the next guy is a very real possibility. Hiring one "fangio guy" after he offered it to a non-fangio guy is an obsession with fangio defense? I don't think you can say that unless he does it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Norm said: Whats your new avatar from It's from my personal fantasy of sending a tank round in Barry's general direction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Arthur Penske said: Hiring one "fangio guy" after he offered it to a non-fangio guy is an obsession with fangio defense? I don't think you can say that unless he does it again. He's said over and over that this is the style of defense he wants to play. I think I can call it an obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Mazrimiv said: It's worth remembering that MLF is part of the problem here. His obsession with the Fangio defense is what brought Barry here in the first place. I think Staley being the next guy is a very real possibility. I brought Staley up as a possibility a couple of months ago. Did great with the Rams but having Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and Von Miller certainly helps. I wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, NFLGURU said: I brought Staley up as a possibility a couple of months ago. Did great with the Rams but having Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and Von Miller certainly helps. I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe as a positional coach, but no thanks as a DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Maybe as a positional coach, but no thanks as a DC. We'll have to see who is out there and interested in the job. Staley may not be interested. Edited December 18, 2023 by NFLGURU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: There are some more riskier than others. You want a guy with a proven track record if possible. A guy like Leonhard or Al Harris is risky. They might turn out great, but would you put your job on the line for either of them? Tough call, but he's gotta get rid of Barry for sure. No more retread D coordinators .. they don't have a job for a reason. Fresh blood, fresh energy, fresh ideas, fresh aggression is what the GB Packers need. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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