resilient part 2 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 In the meantime, Seattle at 4:25 next Sunday. Go get them Mighytmouse07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Who would you all rather have, Jeff Heath or JJ Wilcox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, the lone star said: Who would you all rather have, Jeff Heath or JJ Wilcox? Heath gets way, way, wayyy too much flak. People cant move on from poor play from years ago. He's solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, NoFlyZone said: Heath gets way, way, wayyy too much flak. People cant move on from poor play from years ago. He's solid. He's hit or miss, but so are A LOT of other safeties in the league. I like Heath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///mcompact Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, the lone star said: Who would you all rather have, Jeff Heath or JJ Wilcox? Either my sarcasm meter needs calibration or this is a serious question. Regardless, even during the 2014 season, Wilcox's sophomore season, I would've chosen Heath. Not that Jeff was tearing it up but because Wilcox was such a bonehead back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, ///mcompact said: Either my sarcasm meter needs calibration or this is a serious question. Regardless, even during the 2014 season, Wilcox's sophomore season, I would've chosen Heath. Not that Jeff was tearing it up but because Wilcox was such a bonehead back there. Just a random question I had because I was talking with my boys after the game. I like both. I guess I prefer Heath because of his playmaking ability, but Wilcox was more than solid in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyMouse07 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Go Buccs! Winston needs to FTRITP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyMouse07 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: In the meantime, Seattle at 4:25 next Sunday. Go get them Mighytmouse07. On it boss man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///mcompact Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, the lone star said: I guess I prefer Heath because of his playmaking ability, but Wilcox was more than solid in 2016. That was after Wilcox's 2013, '14, and '15 season of getting FS snaps to "develop". In 2016, he flashed here and there but was in no way a quality starter...even among the average DB players we had. My contention with starting Heath over Wilcox was that he (Heath) was misdiagnosed as a player due to of a few forced outings in 2012 as a UDFA. The very few times that Heath was on the field, he made huge splash plays. My belief is that had we given all of those developmental snaps to Heath instead of Wicox, Heath would've actually developed and benefited the team to a better degree. Instead, we wasted 4 years on Wilcox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, NoFlyZone said: Heath gets way, way, wayyy too much flak. People cant move on from poor play from years ago. He's solid. He does a good job making plays on runners but it just might be me but he seems to constantly be late on making plays on balls on the air down field and misreading the deep routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatieMan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Saw the highlights today morning... WHY DID GARRET NOT GO FOR IT 4th & Goal inside 3 minutes? Why would you give them time to get down there for a FG. Should have went for it and played for a 3 & out if you did not convert inside 2-3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, WheatieMan said: Saw the highlights today morning... WHY DID GARRET NOT GO FOR IT 4th & Goal inside 3 minutes? Why would you give them time to get down there for a FG. Should have went for it and played for a 3 & out if you did not convert inside 2-3 minutes. People say that, but the ease at which they drove afterward kinda proves Garrett right. If all the Raiders had to play for were was a FG we would of lost (assuming we dont score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatieMan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Obviously Raiders are in 4 down territory even backed up in there. My problem is you lose the field position advantage by going up only 3 and giving them the ball back at the 25, as opposed to possibly going up by 4 and forcing them to go for 6 at their own 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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