Bitty 2.0 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I can really see New England taking JJ at number three. It’s their kind of player. The Raiders can trade up for Daniels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 17 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said: I can really see New England taking JJ at number three. It’s their kind of player. The Raiders can trade up for Daniels. How is he their kind of player. They literally have never had a QB like him before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 12 minutes ago, big_palooka said: How is he their kind of player. They literally have never had a QB like him before. Big school, national champion, pocket passer, coached by a legend. Didn’t they draft Mac Jones the same year he led Alabama to the national title? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 41 minutes ago, big_palooka said: How is he their kind of player. They literally have never had a QB like him before. Tom Brady? The first 10 years of his career was a run heavy offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said: I can really see New England taking JJ at number three. It’s their kind of player. The Raiders can trade up for Daniels. Daniels arm doesn’t bother you? Definitely the worst arm of the Top 5 Prospects. I go back and forth with the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Tom Brady? The first 10 years of his career was a run heavy offense. You mean first 6…? 2007 he threw 50 TDs on the greatest offense ever at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It was the Brady show from that point forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Daniels arm doesn’t bother you? Definitely the worst arm of the Top 5 Prospects. I go back and forth with the guy. I think you’re over exaggerating Daniels arm. He had some pretty beautiful deep balls this year. I worry far more about his going through progressions and not having the level of talent he had at LSU with both of those receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Daniels arm doesn’t bother you? Definitely the worst arm of the Top 5 Prospects. I go back and forth with the guy. I'm being swayed solely from the fact that if we retain a league top defensive unit, we don't need an all pro QB, we just need a QB that can make plays. He can handle that, but if you need him to throw 300 yards and command an elite offense in order to win, I don't think he's going to be that guy 11-12 games a season. It's the only way I see Daniels succeeding in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 12 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: You mean first 6…? 2007 he threw 50 TDs on the greatest offense ever at the time. Ok? Still the same meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, FloydFan said: I think you’re over exaggerating Daniels arm. He had some pretty beautiful deep balls this year. I worry far more about his going through progressions and not having the level of talent he had at LSU with both of those receivers. He doesn’t have a rocket but it’s adequate and he has touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, NickButera said: I'm being swayed solely from the fact that if we retain a league top defensive unit, we don't need an all pro QB, we just need a QB that can make plays. He can handle that, but if you need him to throw 300 yards and command an elite offense in order to win, I don't think he's going to be that guy 11-12 games a season. It's the only way I see Daniels succeeding in the league. Being super mobile takes a lot of pressure of a QB though as we've seen with guys like Hurts and Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, NickButera said: I'm being swayed solely from the fact that if we retain a league top defensive unit, we don't need an all pro QB, we just need a QB that can make plays. He can handle that, but if you need him to throw 300 yards and command an elite offense in order to win, I don't think he's going to be that guy 11-12 games a season. It's the only way I see Daniels succeeding in the league. Very fair points. Jayden is miles better than what we have, and he definitely has a lot of potential still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Daniels throws a very catchable deep ball and is a threat on the run. But, he’s terrible at making throws on the move and extending plays to create throws. He’s very binary, it’s either throw on schedule or run. Which scares me because if he loses confidence with himself as a thrower and he keeps running, he’ll get destroyed with that frame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: Being super mobile takes a lot of pressure of a QB though as we've seen with guys like Hurts and Lamar. Hurts is a below average thrower of the ball and teams have caught on that the run game is mainly inside zone, which of course isn’t great for explosive runs but gives them a RPO with Hurts legs. But teams aren’t biting on the Play actions stopping there explosive passes downfield. So they’ve ended up with an inability to create explosive plays with either pass or run plays. Any negative plays and the offence is struggling, even with the Tush push. with the norm being mobile QBs, defences are adjusting and having legs isn’t the only important thing. They have to be able to play within the structure of the offence and provide explosive plays within the structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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