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2023 Week #18 5 Up & 5 Down Victory Over Ravens


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Five Up

1. Steelers won and have a shot at the play-offs at 10-7. C'mon Miami and Tennessee!!!!

2. Isaac Seomalu and James Daniels. Best combo of OG play I have seen from both this season. They dominated at times despite the weather.

3. Najee Harris. High character guy who showed up big the past two weeks. For 2024 this guy needs to be a team captain again.

4. Mark Robinson. Who? Yeah, he made some plays tonight.  He looked like a solid thumper and showed up.

5. TJ Watt, Eric Rowe, Myles Jack, and Keeanu Benton all stood out on defense.

 

Five Down

1.  TJ Watt injury. Hoping for the best regardless. Tough year for injuries in Pittsburgh. There have been a ton at key positions.

2. Ball security. Yes the weather was bad, have to be prepared to take care of the football under the circumstances. I love Jalen and I believe that he will improve in this area.

3. Percy Harvin. I loved drafting this guy and thought this was the next Reggie Roby. He has not lived up to the hype. He is extremely inconsistent. I see a new punter on the 2024 roster.

4.  Bad weather, but not too bad for Mason coming back down to earth a little. Some poor decisions holding onto the ball too much. This is what got Kenny hurt as well at times.

5. Should have blown the Ravens out on the scoreboard. A few missed opportunities and bad game management kept the game much closer. This is something that I hope to see the Steelers continue to improve upon. Realistically  the weather had an affect, but still an area to improve upon.

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On 1/7/2024 at 9:41 AM, Steeler Hitman said:

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4. Mark Robinson. Who? Yeah, he made some plays tonight.  He looked like a solid thumper and showed up.

I can't say I saw much of the game but on the sack he looked good despite looking around at the time of the snap instead of knowing what he was seeing was good. You could say he exploded to the tune of Kendrell Bell through that gaping hole but if he knew what was going on he'd be a much better player.

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Mason had just 2 incompletions?  In that weather, I would say thats worth mentioning.

death Rowe made some nice plays, they need to keep him. 

E-Rob playing with injury, dude has heart 

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16 hours ago, zflairway said:

I can't say I saw much of the game but on the sack he looked good despite looking around at the time of the snap instead of knowing what he was seeing was good. You could say he exploded to the tune of Kendrell Bell through that gaping hole but if he knew what was going on he'd be a much better player.

I agree with you. He is not the future as a starter at ILB. He played 13 plays and was impactful on at least half with a sack and 5 tackles. I am only saying that is the best he's looked as a player in a game his entire NFL career.  I have been hard on him with his slow development and gave him his due for playing a good game.

Kendrell Bell aka Kendrill Bell.  Talk about guys who started fast and then flamed out. I loved ole 97 when he came out of UGA. I thought he would follow a Legendary to decent line of ILB's in Pittsburgh: Lambert, Little, Kirkland, Holmes, Farrior, etc.

ILB will be a draft priority. Although I am resigning Elandon Roberts and would look at signing Isiah Simmons who is with the Giants, whom I think is a free agent now. Roberts, Simmons, Holcomb, rookie raft choice to develop would make for a decent set of ILB'S. Prayerfully they all can stay healthy next season. P.S. I love Kwon Alexander, I am just not sure where he is health wise with multiple knee injuries. Maybe he could be put on the PS for security.  I loved his hitting and style of play. I am rooting for Kwon.

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9 hours ago, 3rivers said:

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Mason had just 2 incompletions?  In that weather, I would say thats worth mentioning.

No doubt about Mason's efficiency passing.  He threw accurately despite the conditions. However, some of the decisions he made were not great. He held the ball too long at times.  The pass protection is still a weakness, particularly at OT. In a game like this play smart (conservative some would say) and know the situation. It didn't cost the Steelers, but going into this week, I want to see Mason keep his high football IQ.  Sometimes players try to do too much. See the Najee catch where he tried to break a long run instead of turning up and getting the first down.

No criticism of Mason at all, just wanting to see him continue to elevate his game. The team is going to need that to compete with Buffalo. There is little margin for errors.  They have to be smart and make the most of each opportunity on both sides of the ball.

They have to convert first downs, hold onto the football, fall on loose balls when Buffalo fumbles (we should almost have double the fumble recoveries for the amount of opponents balls on the ground), catch the ill thrown Josh Allen passes. There's no doubt the Bills are the better team, but Pittsburgh has to take advantage of each and every Bills miscue and limit their own (pre-snap penalties, personal fouls, etc.).

 

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I was extremely remiss in not acknowledging Godwin Igwebuike's smart KOR play before the half. We give Danny "the Chew" a lot of grief, but this was smart situational football and dare I say, "good coaching!"  Ironically, the previous week on the same field versus the Dolphins, Miami's kick returner fielded a ball in the same circumstance that if he let go out of bounds would have given the Dolphins the ball at the 40 inside of two minutes.  The Dolphins may have scored points there instead of the turnover (INT by Tua).

Igwebuike gave the offense an opportunity getting the ball at the 35 instead of fielding it inside of the 10 yard line. Hopefuly, this week the offense is smarter with ball security and situational football versus the Bills and not the back-up Ravens. However, this was smart football and should be acknowledged.

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1 hour ago, jebrick said:

I agree.  Made me think of gunner's reverse of this play.

Sadly yes. I had such high expectations for Gunner. I thought he would be a "very good" returner and add something to the offense as well. I thought he was a much better product than the guy from North Carolina who was a two or three yard gain specialist and brought in to be a good return man (forget his name off hand). It's been a minute, but he was a stud in college. I think he was drafted by the Cowboys in the 5th round or so. I just can't remember his name or year. 

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I saw Tomlins remarks about that return play with a "it's not special to know the rules, I expect him to do that".

Buddy,,,have you missed the Danny Smith returners messing up rules? From AB and Switzer not understanding free-kick rules to Gunner just this year messing up the same scenario.

Personally, I think we should throw Igwebuike a party. 

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27 minutes ago, Dcash4 said:

I saw Tomlins remarks about that return play with a "it's not special to know the rules, I expect him to do that".

Buddy,,,have you missed the Danny Smith returners messing up rules? From AB and Switzer not understanding free-kick rules to Gunner just this year messing up the same scenario.

Personally, I think we should throw Igwebuike a party. 

I’m more understanding of the free kick than the kickoff ob. 

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6 hours ago, Steeler Hitman said:

I agree with you. He is not the future as a starter at ILB. He played 13 plays and was impactful on at least half with a sack and 5 tackles. I am only saying that is the best he's looked as a player in a game his entire NFL career.  I have been hard on him with his slow development and gave him his due for playing a good game.

Kendrell Bell aka Kendrill Bell.  Talk about guys who started fast and then flamed out. I loved ole 97 when he came out of UGA. I thought he would follow a Legendary to decent line of ILB's in Pittsburgh: Lambert, Little, Kirkland, Holmes, Farrior, etc.

ILB will be a draft priority. Although I am resigning Elandon Roberts and would look at signing Isiah Simmons who is with the Giants, whom I think is a free agent now. Roberts, Simmons, Holcomb, rookie raft choice to develop would make for a decent set of ILB'S. Prayerfully they all can stay healthy next season. P.S. I love Kwon Alexander, I am just not sure where he is health wise with multiple knee injuries. Maybe he could be put on the PS for security.  I loved his hitting and style of play. I am rooting for Kwon.

The legendary ILB room suddenly doesn't appear so legendary. You could say Kendrell Bell is the best of the unit. Slamming into the back will break the back that's for sure.

That's a little fluffy of an ILB room for me. Roberts is a worse version of Earl Holmes. Holcomb is fast but he's not stout so he's a launching pad. Simmons is a no go. Kwon is a Ivan Pace Jr type player but the more mack version of the hybrid sub package role. Kwon doesn't pack as much punch. 

Maybe a one and one for me. One in the draft and one in free agency with Robinson and Kwon or someone like that would be serviceable and not much else. 

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1 hour ago, zflairway said:

The legendary ILB room suddenly doesn't appear so legendary. You could say Kendrell Bell is the best of the unit. Slamming into the back will break the back that's for sure.

No way Robinson is the best. He is not even close to what Kendrell Bell was at this point. Bell was NFL defensive rookie of the year. 

That's a little fluffy of an ILB room for me. Roberts is a worse version of Earl Holmes.

I kind of agree with you. Different eras, but Roberts has balled out this year. If he is part of a rotation, he stays healthy and fresh. Roberts definitely could have played back then. 

Holcomb is fast but he's not stout so he's a launching pad.

Holcomb is injury prone, but when healthy, he is more than effective. He just started learning and adjusting to the Steelers scheme before getting hurt. He is not a superstar,but can be good. Again you also can't pay every position. Defense is already $$$$.

Simmons is a no go.

I think Simmons is the reasonably priced free agent that fits what the Steelers need in coverage. He is Edmunds at ILB. I would kick the tires on Simmons personally.

Kwon is a Ivan Pace Jr type player but the more mack version of the hybrid sub package role. Kwon doesn't pack as much punch. 

Kwon is a very good player when healthy. That's his issue (staying healthy). I would say Kwon packs a heavier punch.👊🏿👊🏿 He has coverage ability. Again he should be affordable $$$ and if healthy has a good upside for the defense. Certainly not someone to depend on every play. 

Maybe a one and one for me. One in the draft and one in free agency

I agree. Draft choice and a decent free agent. I like Simmons. I have not looked at the other potential free agents at the position. 

with Robinson and Kwon or someone like that would be serviceable and not much else. 

I think Kwon has more upside. They will probably keep four or five and perhaps even another one on the PS. 

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11 minutes ago, Steeler Hitman said:

I think Kwon has more upside. They will probably keep four or five and perhaps even another one on the PS. 

Roberts is a slow buck. Robinson flashed enough athleticism from what I saw, I just think there's a lapse in seeing is believing. And Kwon is a reliable veteran. Sure, you should keep five, but now we're talking about a Matakevich type and yeah, sure, you could have a Jack or Smith on the PS. 

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22 minutes ago, zflairway said:

Roberts is a slow buck.

Yes, but he knows the defense and without him, the Steelers are not playing on Sunday. He is very smart. He doesn't have to be an every down ILB. He brings a thump. 

Robinson flashed enough athleticism from what I saw, I just think there's a lapse in seeing is believing.

He is still raw. Smoke and mirrors for me. I think he is highly upgradeable. He also doesn't have a high ILB IQ. Someone who can't lead the defense (green dot).

And Kwon is a reliable veteran. Sure, you should keep five, but now we're talking about a Matakevich type and yeah,

Not with the injuries they had this season. I think they need at least four guys who can play. 

sure, you could have a Jack or Smith on the PS. 

I agree 👍🏿 They will probably move on from Jack and Martinez 

 

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16 hours ago, Dcash4 said:

I saw Tomlins remarks about that return play with a "it's not special to know the rules, I expect him to do that".

Buddy,,,have you missed the Danny Smith returners messing up rules? From AB and Switzer not understanding free-kick rules to Gunner just this year messing up the same scenario.

Personally, I think we should throw Igwebuike a party. 

Well said. And thanks for the Ryan Switzer mention. I couldn't remember his name in my previous post.  I thought he and Gunner where going to be good on special teams. We have definitely floundered with returners. I might as well add Dri Archer who could run a straight line faster than lightning, but seemed to have no on field speed or moves in the NFL. 🥴

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