TheKillerNacho Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, I do think at the very least players graded highly are playing at a relatively high level, and those graded poorly are not (even if the exact order is questionable). Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format and that players of most positions that do not have a certain Snap % are not included (I think its like 25%). Previous update: Week 13 2023 QUARTERBACK Top 6: 1. Josh Allen BUF 91.3 2. Dak Prescott DAL 90.8 3. Lamar Jackson BAL 90.3 4a. Brock Purdy SF 88.4 4b. Tua Tagovailoa MIA 88.4 6. Jalen Hurts PHI 86.4 Bottom 6: 1. Desmond Ridder ATL 51.9 2a. Mac Jones NE 52.2 2b. Bailey Zappe NE 52.2 4. Bryce Young CAR 56.0 5. Tyson Bagent CHI 57.4 6. Zach Wilson NYJ 58.2 RUNNINGBACK Top 7: 1. De'Von Achane MIA 92.4 2. Christian McCaffrey SF 90.6 3. Derrick Henry TEN 90.4 4. James Conner ARI 89.2 5. Raheem Mostert MIA 87.5 6. Breece Hall NYJ 84.3 7. Kenneth Walker III SEA 83.5 Bottom 7: 1. Joshua Kelly LAC 52.0 2. Matt Breida NYG 52.4 3a. Kenneth Gainwell 55.5 3b. Ameer Abdullah LV 55.5 5. Jamaal Williams NO 59.4 6. Austin Ekeler LAC 60.2 7a. Miles Sanders CAR 60.8 7b. Michael Carter ARI 60.8 FULLBACK Top 5: 1. Michael Burton DEN 64.2 2. Patrick Ricard BAL 62.1 3. Reggie Gilliam BUF 61.9 4. Hunter Luepke 61.8 5. C.J. Ham MIN 57.6 Bottom 5: 1. Adam Prentice NO 38.1 2. Jason Cabinda DETT 41.9 3. Jakob Johnson LV 46.1 4. Keith Smith ATL 47.2 5. Alec Ingold MIA 47.4 WIDE RECEIVER Top 8: 1. Tyreek Hill MIA 93.7 2. Brandon Aiyuk SF 92.3 3a. CeeDee Lamb DAL 91.1 3b. Justin Jefferson MIN 91.1 5. Nico Collins HOU 91.0 6. Jaylen Waddle MIA 90.7 7. Amon-Ra St. Brown DET 90.6 8. A.J. Brown PHI 90.0 Bottom 8: 1. Xavier Hutchinson HOU 46.9 2. Jason Brownlee NYJ 47.7 3. Hunter Renfrow LV 48.6 4. Van Jefferson ATL 50.1 5. Lynn Bowden NO 50.3 6. Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC 50.4 7. Trey Palmer TB 51.3 8. Jalen Reagor NE 51.4 TIGHT END Top 6: 1. George Kittle SF 87.6 2. Mark Andrews BAL 80.0 3. T.J. Hockenson MIN 78.8 4. Travis Kelce 78.6 5. Marcedes Lewis CHI 77.3 6. Sam LaPorta DET 76.4 Bottom 6: 1. Julian Hill MIA 40.9 2. Stone Smartt LAC 44.1 3. Irv Smith Jr. CIN 44.2 4. Hayden Hurst CAR 44.7 5. Brock Wright DET 45.6 6. Brenton Strange JAX 48.6 OFFENSIVE TACKLE Top 7: 1. Penei Sewell DET 90.7 2. Trent Williams SF 89.7 3. Jordan Mailata PHI 84.1 4. Tyron Smith DAL 83.8 5. Braden Smith IND 83.3 6. Christian Darrisaw MIN 82.4 7. Bernhard Raimann IND 82.3 Bottom 7: 1. Jaelyn Duncan TEN 32.9 2. Evan Neal NYG 39.8 3. Vederian Lowe NE 41.7 4. Geron Christian CLE 43.2 5. Blake Freeland IND 44.2 6. James Hudson III CLE 46.8 7. Carter Warren NYJ 46.9 OFFENSIVE GUARD Top 7: 1. Chris Lindstrom ATL 87.6 2. Kevin Dotson LAR 85.2 3. Quinn Meinerz DEN 83.8 4. Jon Feliciano SF 81.2 5. Sam Cosmi WAS 80.6 6. Robert Hunt MIA 77.1 7. Greg Van Roten LV 75.3 Bottom 7: 1. Chandler Zavala CAR 26.2 2. Atonio Mafi NE 32.3 3. Nash Jensen CAR 34.7 4. Chris Paul WAS 38.8 5. Justin Pugh NYG 41.6 6. Ben Bredeson NYG 42.1 7. Cody Mauch TB 44.7 CENTER Top 5: 1. Frank Ragnow DET 88.1 2. Connor Williams MIA 86.5 3. Drew Dalman ATL 82.3 4. Jason Kelce PHI 80.7 5. Erik McCoy NO 79.4 Bottom 5: 1. John Michael Schmitz NYG 41.4 2. Luke Fortner JAX 44.3 3. Liam Eichenberg MIA 46.7 4. Connor McGovern NYJ 48.5 5. Tyler Larsen WAS 50.3 CORNERBACK Top 7: 1. Jaylon Johnson CHI 90.8 2. DaRon Bland DAL 90.4 3. Sauce Gardner NYJ 88.6 4. Devon Witherspoon SEA 84.1 5. Kendall Fuller WAS 83.1 6. Trent McDuffie KC 82.9 7. Charvarius Ward SF 82.6 Bottom 7: 1. J.C. Jackson NE 34.8 2. Damarri Mathis DEN 35.2 3. Marco Wilson NE 41.7 4. Jakorian Bennett LV 42.4 5. Tre Avery TEN 44.2 6. C.J. Henderson CAR 45.4 7. Alontae Taylor 45.7 SAFETY Top 7: 1. Antoine Winfield Jr. TB 91.2 2. Jessie Bates III ATL 90.6 3. Jevon Holland MIA 90.4 4. Xavier McKinney NYG 87.8 5. Jabrill Peppers NE 87.3 6. Alohi Gilman LAC 86.1 7. Kyle Hamilton BAL 86.0 Bottom 7: 1. Nick Scott CIN 41.6 2. Jayron Kearse DAL 43.1 3. Anthony Johnson Jr. 45.6 4. Elijah Hicks 46.2 5. Ryan Neal TB 49.7 6. Richie Grant ATL 51.5 7. Dax Hill CIN 51.6 LINEBACKER Top 7: 1. Fred Warner SF 90.1 2. Demario Davis NO 89.6 3. Tyrel Dodson BUF 89.5 4. Jahlani Tavai NE 86.5 5. Blake Cashman HOU 83.7 6. C.J. Mosley NYJ 82.9 7. Bobby Wagner SEA 82.4 Bottom 7: 1. Josh Woods ARI 31.8 2. Henry To'oTo'o HOU 41.7 3. Devin White TB 46.0 4. Kamu Grugier-Hill CAR 48.6 5. Christian Rozeboom LAR 49.0 6a. Mykal Walker PIT 52.9 6b. Kenneth Murray Jr. LAC 52.9 "INTERIOR DEFENDER" Top 7: 1. Dexter Lawrence NYG 93.0 2. Aaron Donald LAR 90.9 3. Quinnen Williams NYJ 90.6 4. Derrick Brown CAR 90.1 5. Jalen Carter PHI 89.0 6. Alim McNeill DET 88.5 7. Chris Jones KC 84.1 Bottom 7: 1. Eric Johnson IND 30.5 2. Jordan Phillips BUF 35.8 3. Jonathan Ledbetter ARI 36.2 4. Scott Matlock LAC 36.8 5. Solomon Thomas NYJ 37.1 6. Benito Jones DET 37.4 7. Kyle Peko TEN 38.6 "EDGE DEFENDER" Top 7: 1. Myles Garrett CLE 93.6 2a. Micah Parsons DAL 92.7 2b. Nick Bosa SF 92.7 4. Maxx Crosby LV 92.0 5. T.J. Watt PIT 91.9 6. Khalil Mack LAC 91.8 7. Demarcus Lawrence DAL 91.3 Bottom 7: 1. Pat Jones II MIN 37.9 2. Yannick Ngakoue CHI 39.9 3a. Jihad Ward NYG 42.4 3b. Dawuane Smoot JAX 42.4 5. Derick Hall SEA 44.4 6. Randy Gregory SF 45.5 7. Tyree Wilson LV 47.1 KICKER Top 5: 1. Chase McLaughlin TB 92.0 2. Jake Elliott PHI 91.5 3. Cameron Dicker LAC 90.9 4. Brandon Aubrey DAL 90.6 5. Harrison Butker KC 90.3 Bottom 5: 1. Chad Ryland NE 38.2 2. Mason Crosby NYG 39.0 3. Lucas Havrisik LAR 39.6 4. Brett Maher LAR 46.2 5. Anders Carlson GB 46.8 PUNTER Top 5: 1. Bradley Pinion ATL 88.3 2. Bryan Anger DAL 86.9 3. A.J. Cole LV 83.6 4. Michael Dickson SEA 80.0 5. Corey Bojorquez CLE 79.4 Bottom 5: 1. Ty Zentner TEN 46.9 2. Tress Way WAS 50.7 3. Pressley Harvin III PIT 51.2 4. Lou Hedley NO 56.2 5. Brad Robbins CIN 56.7 There you have it... don't shoot the messenger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 If you take away all of Desmond Ridder's bad plays, he's actually in the top 5. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Surprised to see Jaylon Johnson at #1. He was great this season but the best grade? Seems high to me. For Chicago it's sort of as expected, outside of Johnson, no one was in the top, and no one in the bottom except for Tyson Bagent and Ngakue which is not a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Maybe Tyron was just “that” good for so long or maybe the play of Ot has fallen that much overall, but hard to believe he was a top 5 LT this year. His age and injuries are certainly catching up to him. Likewise, I hate the “love” that Bland gets. He’s a boom or bust corner that sits routes and likes to jump out routes but gets absolutely scorched by double moves. I’d much rather have Gilmore then Bland Lastly, Micah and Dak are easy, but was surprised to see DLaw get mentioned. After starting out as a pass rusher he’s become truly dominant against the run. Not sure he’s Top 10, but he had a great season for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Kinda crazy that Garrett is the only one who finished in the top 10 at any position for Cleveland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, TheKillerNacho said: Bottom 6: 1. Desmond Ridder ATL 51.9 What's his PFF rating if you remove his interceptions, fumbles, and bad plays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, TheKillerNacho said: WIDE RECEIVER Bottom 8 6. Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC 50.4 What a Bum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukjets21 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Surprised that McGovern was worse than some others on the Jets OL, didn't feel he was that bad compared to nearly everyone else. Also surprised to see Mosely so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Solid sophomore year for Bernhard Raimann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Honestly surprised not to see a single Eagles LB or Safety on the bottom 6 list. PFF 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Watching Jalen Hurts play and also watching Bobby Wagner play this year, especially Wagner who was an absolute liability on the field, I don't get the impression either were top 7 at their position. You couldn't convince me that he played better than Roquan Smith or Patrick Queen this year, yet PFF has Wagner at an 82.4 while Smith is 79.2 and Patrick Queen is a 73.9. Likewise, you couldn't convince me Jalen Hurts (86.4) played better than CJ Stroud (82.8), Jared Goff (84.4), Matthew Stafford (85.9), or Geno Smith (82.9) this year. But, I know PFF's grades are entirely subjective and most of the time they're just straight up cheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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