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Lions-Bucs: Colossal Time Mismanagement Missed?


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On 1/23/2024 at 8:22 AM, mse326 said:

Let's run the 3 scenarios

Kick 2 XPT's
95% conversion rate means you have a 90.2% chance of making both going to overitme
Assuming a 50% of winning in OT you have a 45.1% of winning the game

Kick XPT then Go for 2
95% conversion rate means 1)95% chance you are within 7 and 2)a 5% you are within 8
If 1) then a 55% conversion rate on 2pt conversion means 52.25% chance of winning
If 2) then a 55% conversion rate on 2pt conversion means 2.75% of getting to OT and 1.375% of winning
So combined you have a 53.625% chance of winning

Go for 2 and then XPT or 2 based on result
55% conversion rate means 1)55% chance you are within 6 and 2)45% you are within 8
If 1) then a 95% conversion rate means A) 52.25% you win the game and B) 2.75% you go to OT
If B) then assuming 50% chance of winning in OT is 1.375% you win
If 2) then a 55% conversion rate means a 24.75% you go to OT and a 12.375% you win
So combined you have a 66% of winning

Going for 2 twice is the right decision pretty clearly

Why are you assuming a 50% chance to win in overtime? If the Bucs would have came back from a 14 point deficit in less than 4 minutes they would have had all the momentum. All that math doesn't take into account the flow of the game.

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No matter how people try to justify it, the fact the Bucs could have got the ball back due to Goff taking an early knee. Just because Bowels conceded doesn’t mean Goff was suppose to knee it early. 

Dude has never been a great HC.. defense wasn’t even good this year, was actually pretty bad. Completely carried by the offense this year. Canales, Baker, Big Mike, Raachad White, the OL. 

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1 hour ago, StatKing said:

Why are you assuming a 50% chance to win in overtime? If the Bucs would have came back from a 14 point deficit in less than 4 minutes they would have had all the momentum. All that math doesn't take into account the flow of the game.

Being on the road offsets momentum to a degree. Plus the Bucs defense couldn’t stop anything. 

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On 1/25/2024 at 7:16 PM, StatKing said:

Why are you assuming a 50% chance to win in overtime? If the Bucs would have came back from a 14 point deficit in less than 4 minutes they would have had all the momentum. All that math doesn't take into account the flow of the game.

Because study after study has shown that "momentum" doesn't actually exist in the way it's discussed. There is no boost in points expectation for or against on subsequent drives or win %. Flows happen in games because of normal statistical noise. That in no way impacts what is expected in the future

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