Bitty 2.0 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/22/2024 at 10:52 AM, NYRaider said: I don’t care that he said it’s not like it’s a big secret. Every DC in the NFL tries to get to the quarterback. Saying that you have to rattle Mahomes to win is the truth and everybody knows it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Another plus of hiring ex HCs is player evaluation both in the draft and an FA. Marvin Lewis in particular was great at evaluating players, the Bengals probably had the most talent in the NFL kind of like the Ravens or 49s today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 hours ago, FloydFan said: I think this is a little too harsh. I’m not enthused with Getsy either but I like the majority of the rest of the staff. Also nepotism hires happen on almost every staff. From Reid, to Belichick, to Dungy, to forever. All time greats to guys that held the gig for three years. Philbin I’m fine with. More HC experience and has had a history of being a good offensive coach. Is it though? Of all the capable OC's, they botched their first choice and settled for Getsy. Aside from Matt Canada, you can't find an OC who took more flak for being awful last season than Getsy. Really uninspiring hire is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 14 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Another plus of hiring ex HCs is player evaluation both in the draft and an FA. Marvin Lewis in particular was great at evaluating players, the Bengals probably had the most talent in the NFL kind of like the Ravens or 49s today. He went 0-7 in the playoffs with that talent which was wild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Official - Las Vegas Raiders 2024 Coaching Staff Antonio Pierce: Head Coach Marvin Lewis: Assistant Head Coach Matt Sheldon: Game Management Offense Luke Getsy: Offensive Coordinator Edgar Bennett: Wide Receivers James Cregg: Offensive Line Joe Philbin: Senior Offensive Assistant De'Andre Pierce: Offensive Assistant Rich Scangarello: Quarterbacks Mitch Singler: Assistant Tight Ends Luke Steckel: Tight Ends Scott Turner: Pass Game Coordinator Fred Walker: Assistant Quarterbacks Carnell Williams: Running Backs Tim Zetts: Assistant Offense Defense Patrick Graham: Defensive Coordinator Gerald Alexander: Safeties Mike Caldwell: Run Game Coordinator/Linebackers Andre Carter: Pass Rush Specialist Matt Feeney: Assistant Defensive Backs Rob Leonard: Defensive Line Marcus Lewis: Assistant Linebackers Ricky Manning Jr.: Cornerbacks Josh Phillips: Assistant Defense Rob Ryan: Senior Defensive Assistant Special Teams Tom McMahon: Special Teams Coordinator Kade Rannings: Assistant Special Teams Derius Swinton II: Assistant Special Teams Edited February 24 by Humble_Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, big_palooka said: Is it though? Of all the capable OC's, they botched their first choice and settled for Getsy. Aside from Matt Canada, you can't find an OC who took more flak for being awful last season than Getsy. Really uninspiring hire is all. Oh I agree on Getsy. I have not been upset about the rest of the staff though. I will be even more annoyed if they go get Fields to pair with Getsy again. I am excited about the defensive staff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidersedge Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The Getsy hire was so blah but honestly most OCs are hated. Its the most hated coach maybe in all of sports. A few bad play calls or whatever it may be and it sticks with you forever. There is only a handful of coaches who are 'liked" Ben Johnson, Slowik come to mind. Most of these guys fail multiple times. The only OC hire fans like are guys that never called plays before because it gives you a hope. Its most likely a false hope but its gives you hope, maybe he'll be good. Falcon fans think they got the best guy in world in Zac Robinson. Why? he never called plays, that's why. I remember when the Raiders hired Bill Musgrave and Vikings fans were having a field day with that hire. Surprise! Derek Carr had his best years under Musgrave and the offense was pretty damn close to elite. Bottom line is go get good players and you'll most likely be good. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolni Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/24/2024 at 3:36 PM, big_palooka said: He went 0-7 in the playoffs with that talent which was wild. But that was more the coach, not the talent evaluator, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 13 hours ago, raidersedge said: The Getsy hire was so blah but honestly most OCs are hated. Its the most hated coach maybe in all of sports. A few bad play calls or whatever it may be and it sticks with you forever. There is only a handful of coaches who are 'liked" Ben Johnson, Slowik come to mind. Most of these guys fail multiple times. The only OC hire fans like are guys that never called plays before because it gives you a hope. Its most likely a false hope but its gives you hope, maybe he'll be good. Falcon fans think they got the best guy in world in Zac Robinson. Why? he never called plays, that's why. I remember when the Raiders hired Bill Musgrave and Vikings fans were having a field day with that hire. Surprise! Derek Carr had his best years under Musgrave and the offense was pretty damn close to elite. Bottom line is go get good players and you'll most likely be good. Well said. Fans tend to cling to the negative plays when the team is losing games. A lot comes down to the QB and personnel he has to work with. Musgrave was a good example of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/23/2024 at 4:30 PM, FloydFan said: I think this is a little too harsh. I’m not enthused with Getsy either but I like the majority of the rest of the staff. Also nepotism hires happen on almost every staff. From Reid, to Belichick, to Dungy, to forever. All time greats to guys that held the gig for three years. Philbin I’m fine with. More HC experience and has had a history of being a good offensive coach. On 2/24/2024 at 8:35 AM, big_palooka said: Is it though? Of all the capable OC's, they botched their first choice and settled for Getsy. Aside from Matt Canada, you can't find an OC who took more flak for being awful last season than Getsy. Really uninspiring hire is all. Getsy was pretty damn bad in Chicago, even his run attack looks mediocre without Fields just going super human bailing on plays. I wasn't a fan of his lack of adjustments to fit Fields skill-set. I think it's also significantly more disappointing that we had our guy in Kliff then had to settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Getsy was pretty damn bad in Chicago, even his run attack looks mediocre without Fields just going super human bailing on plays. I wasn't a fan of his lack of adjustments to fit Fields skill-set. I think it's also significantly more disappointing that we had our guy in Kliff then had to settle. I would have definitely been more excited about Kliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Getsy was pretty damn bad in Chicago, even his run attack looks mediocre without Fields just going super human bailing on plays. I wasn't a fan of his lack of adjustments to fit Fields skill-set. I think it's also significantly more disappointing that we had our guy in Kliff then had to settle. This is the biggest takeaway. Of all options available, we were forced to settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 ESPN ranked our coaching staff dead last https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40933411/ranking-all-32-nfl-coaching-staffs-best-worst-coaches-coordinators-2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: ESPN ranked our coaching staff dead last https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40933411/ranking-all-32-nfl-coaching-staffs-best-worst-coaches-coordinators-2024 One guy at ESPN, not the entire network. Tend to agree. I posted something similar earlier today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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