Tank4Drake Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Nabbs4u said: Look a couple posts above, I'm not a fan of Moore's. You should worry about your Raiders instead of throwing rocks from a glass house. I’ve been worried about the Raiders since 2003, don’t worry there. Al Davis went senile around that year and Mark Davis is a total moron who doesn’t know anything about football. Just thought you were defending Moore in that post. I personally think this move seals Sirianni’s fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Just thought you were defending Moore in that post. I personally think this move seals Sirianni’s fate. Not defending Moore in the slightest but was pointing out his Top 5 offenses the previous 2 seasons in Dallas. Do you honestly believe Justin Herbert was healthy in 2023? Did not have the injuries listed above? If he did, you don't believe it effected his play and therefore the overall play on offense? That's like suggesting Jalen Hurts was the same QB after the week 6 Jets game were he injured his knee? Just because both played thru injuries doesn't mean their play wasn't effected on the field. That's all. Edited January 28 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Not defending Moore in the slightest but was pointing out his Top 5 offenses the previous 2 seasons in Dallas. Do you honestly believe Justin Herbert was healthy in 2023? Did not have the injuries listed above? If he did, you don't believe it effected his play and therefore the overall play on offense? That's like suggesting Jalen Hurts was the same QB after the week 6 Jets game were he injured his knee? Just because both played thru injuries doesn't mean their play wasn't effected on the field. That's all. Ahh the good ol excuse metric. I had to listen to Raider fans make excuses for Carr for nine years straight. Injuries, OL, WR’s, RB’s, Defense, Coaching, always rotated. Everyone plays injured… it’s part of the damn game. When you start the cycle of excuses, you can make it go on forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 He's a very creative playcaller, and part of me is sad to see him go (especially if JH's plan is Greg Roman!), but Kellen really struggled all year with protection plans. His inability to call chips, or to adjust to the blitz (crazy thinking early in the year we had great blitz responses), was a snowball that got worse and worse as the season went along. And that's how it felt, that things kept de-railing further each week. And I'm talking about the Herbert times. At this point I think his scheme really needs a very strong o-line. The fact he doesn't use a FB, that he couldn't get any blocking production from our TEs (and didn't press for it to be addressed in the off season), and later the personnel decisions regarding RB usage were pretty much all over the field. He clearly has all the potential to be a top OC, but it feels like he still needs to round out some deficiencies, that in the NFL will get exploited again and again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 So uh what does sirianni do? That reporter was on to something. If Philly starts slow at least they have 2 solid enough interim candidates now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbertGOAT Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Sirianni will not survive this next round of coordinator firings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Keeping that Chargers to Eagles OC train alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 If Sirianni really does go full CEO and lets Kellen run his own offense here this will be a very sizable upgrade. I am not huge on this hire, but it would be really nice just going back to some sort of modern NFL offense rather than running a college scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, NVRamsFan said: Keeping that Chargers to Eagles OC train alive. Can you blame them? I'll give @EaglesPeteC his credit for this post. 🥃 Quote Reich- Chargers OC to Eagles Super Bowl Steichen- Chargers OC to Eagles Super Bowl Kellen Moore- Chargers OC to Eagles We all know what is next 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 15 hours ago, Broncofan said: He had a really uneven year in LAC - but the total lack of talent on O outside of Justin Herbert and Keenan Allen (OMG did Ekeler ever look washed), hard to tell if that was on him. Certainly more about the lack of talent GM Telesco brought in IMO, but we've beaten that topic to death. In theory Moore's commitment to both the run game and vertical pass game would fit well with what PHI is looking for. Even more important would be having someone who could adapt to what D's were doing - Siriani & Brian Johnson literally had no answers. You'd think Moore is an upgrade for that reason alone. A top-tier QB (in terms of talent) A bonafide #1 WR A bonafide #2 WR for ~half the year A very talented 1st round WR Joshua Kelly at TE, Ekeler at HB, Palmer at WR3 A very talented OLine (particularly Slater and Zion) Just speaking on talent and not last year’s production for these guys because coaching/scheme can’t be dissolved from it… their offense should be a lot better. Player regression or underperformance can be due to the players themselves, but it’s more likely Moore’s fault that they couldn’t get their talents going. Moore’s trajectory smells an awful lot like former Eagles’ coach John DeFlippo (sp): hot commodity as a new OC whose interest wanes as he can’t figure out how to do anything but pass a lot, and ends up bouncing around from team to team until… nothing. Edited January 28 by Duluther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Duluther said: Moore’s trajectory smells an awful lot like former Eagles’ coach John DeFlippo (sp): hot commodity as a new OC whose interest wanes as he can’t figure out how to do anything but pass a lot, and ends up bouncing around from team to team until… nothing. At least pick someone worth comparing? JD was a flavor of the Month hire from the 2017 Eagles SB winning staff that got hired as a OC but averaged 25th in pts over his 3 years? Moore finish top 6 in points three times in 4 seasons with Dallas? Not remotely the same other then they both pass way to GD much for my liking. There's a reason JD doesn't have a OC job, he sucked at it! Edited January 28 by Nabbs4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Moore is the type of coordinator that drove me crazy - it's 3rd and 2 and he calls a draw play from a Spread Shotgun that gets stuffed for a 2yd loss. He then quickly abandons the run game altogether and ends up with 35-40 pass attempts and 12 run attempts when the game was never really out of hand. His offenses tend to either score or go 3-and-out which can also hurt a defense that is left out there to grind, leading to worse D performances as the game goes on. However, if he can hit some home runs early and get up a couple scores, it allows the D to pin their ears back and focus heavily on the pass, which (in the right D) can lead to some opportunities to jump routes and get turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/28/2024 at 8:24 AM, adamq said: So uh what does sirianni do? That reporter was on to something. If Philly starts slow at least they have 2 solid enough interim candidates now whatever all the other ceo coaches do I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Adam Gase would have been an upgrade over this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles $5$ Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 6:24 AM, adamq said: So uh what does sirianni do? That reporter was on to something. If Philly starts slow at least they have 2 solid enough interim candidates now Same thing that Jim/John Harbaugh do. Same thing that Dan Campbell does... I can go on and on. Not every coach call plays. Nick will coach every aspect of the team. If he doesn't do a good job like last year, he will be fired. Simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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