Jump to content

Eagles hire Kellen Moore as OC


Broncofan

Recommended Posts

Just now, Nabbs4u said:

Look a couple posts above, I'm not a fan of Moore's. 

You should worry about your Raiders instead of throwing rocks from a glass house. 

I’ve been worried about the Raiders since 2003, don’t worry there. Al Davis went senile around that year and Mark Davis is a total moron who doesn’t know anything about football. 

Just thought you were defending Moore in that post. 

I personally think this move seals Sirianni’s fate. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said:

Just thought you were defending Moore in that post. 

I personally think this move seals Sirianni’s fate. 

Not defending Moore in the slightest but was pointing out his Top 5 offenses the previous 2 seasons in Dallas. 

Do you honestly believe Justin Herbert was healthy in 2023? Did not have the injuries listed above?

If he did,  you don't believe it effected his play and therefore the overall play on offense? That's like suggesting Jalen Hurts was the same QB after the week 6 Jets game were he injured his knee? 

Just because both played thru injuries doesn't mean their play wasn't effected on the field. That's all.

Edited by Nabbs4u
Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said:

Not defending Moore in the slightest but was pointing out his Top 5 offenses the previous 2 seasons in Dallas. 

Do you honestly believe Justin Herbert was healthy in 2023? Did not have the injuries listed above?

If he did,  you don't believe it effected his play and therefore the overall play on offense? That's like suggesting Jalen Hurts was the same QB after the week 6 Jets game were he injured his knee? 

Just because both played thru injuries doesn't mean their play wasn't effected on the field. That's all.

Ahh the good ol excuse metric. I had to listen to Raider fans make excuses for Carr for nine years straight. Injuries, OL, WR’s, RB’s, Defense, Coaching, always rotated. 

Everyone plays injured… it’s part of the damn game. When you start the cycle of excuses, you can make it go on forever. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

He's a very creative playcaller, and part of me is sad to see him go (especially if JH's plan is Greg Roman!), but Kellen really struggled all year with protection plans. 

His inability to call chips, or to adjust to the blitz (crazy thinking early in the year we had great blitz responses), was a snowball that got worse and worse as the season went along. 

And that's how it felt, that things kept de-railing further each week. And I'm talking about the Herbert times. 

At this point I think his scheme really needs a very strong o-line. The fact he doesn't use a FB, that he couldn't get any blocking production from our TEs (and didn't press for it to be addressed in the off season), and later the personnel decisions regarding RB usage were pretty much all over the field. 

He clearly has all the potential to be a top OC, but it feels like he still needs to round out some deficiencies, that in the NFL will get exploited again and again. 

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

If Sirianni really does go full CEO and lets Kellen run his own offense here this will be a very sizable upgrade. I am not huge on this hire, but it would be really nice just going back to some sort of modern NFL offense rather than running a college scheme.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, NVRamsFan said:

Keeping that Chargers to Eagles OC train alive. 

Can you blame them? I'll give @EaglesPeteC his credit for this post. 🥃

 

Quote

 

Reich- Chargers OC to Eagles

Super Bowl

 

Steichen- Chargers OC to Eagles

Super Bowl

 

Kellen Moore- Chargers OC to Eagles

 

We all know what is next 😎

 

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, Broncofan said:

 

 

 

 

He had a really uneven year in LAC - but the total lack of talent on O outside of Justin Herbert and Keenan Allen (OMG did Ekeler ever look washed), hard to tell if that was on him.   Certainly more about the lack of talent GM Telesco brought in IMO, but we've beaten that topic to death.

 

In theory Moore's commitment to both the run game and vertical pass game would fit well with what PHI is looking for.    Even more important would be having someone who could adapt to what D's were doing - Siriani & Brian Johnson literally had no answers.   You'd think Moore is an upgrade for that reason alone.

A top-tier QB (in terms of talent)

A bonafide #1 WR

A bonafide #2 WR for ~half the year

A very talented 1st round WR

Joshua Kelly at TE, Ekeler at HB, Palmer at WR3

A very talented OLine (particularly Slater and Zion)

Just speaking on talent and not last year’s production for these guys because coaching/scheme can’t be dissolved from it… their offense should be a lot better.

Player regression or underperformance can be due to the players themselves, but it’s more likely Moore’s fault that they couldn’t get their talents going.

Moore’s trajectory smells an awful lot like former Eagles’ coach John DeFlippo (sp): hot commodity as a new OC whose interest wanes as he can’t figure out how to do anything but pass a lot, and ends up bouncing around from team to team until… nothing.

Edited by Duluther
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Duluther said:

Moore’s trajectory smells an awful lot like former Eagles’ coach John DeFlippo (sp): hot commodity as a new OC whose interest wanes as he can’t figure out how to do anything but pass a lot, and ends up bouncing around from team to team until… nothing.

At least pick someone worth comparing?

JD was a flavor of the Month hire from the 2017 Eagles SB winning staff that got hired as a OC but averaged 25th in pts over his 3 years?

Moore finish top 6 in points three times in 4 seasons with Dallas?

Not remotely the same other then they both pass way to GD much for my liking. There's a reason JD doesn't have a OC job, he sucked at it!

Edited by Nabbs4u
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Moore is the type of coordinator that drove me crazy - it's 3rd and 2 and he calls a draw play from a Spread Shotgun that gets stuffed for a 2yd loss.  He then quickly abandons the run game altogether and ends up with 35-40 pass attempts and 12 run attempts when the game was never really out of hand.  His offenses tend to either score or go 3-and-out which can also hurt a defense that is left out there to grind, leading to worse D performances as the game goes on.  However, if he can hit some home runs early and get up a couple scores, it allows the D to pin their ears back and focus heavily on the pass, which (in the right D) can lead to some opportunities to jump routes and get turnovers.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/28/2024 at 8:24 AM, adamq said:

So uh what does sirianni do? That reporter was on to something. If Philly starts slow at least they have 2 solid enough interim candidates now

whatever all the other ceo coaches do I suppose

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/28/2024 at 6:24 AM, adamq said:

So uh what does sirianni do? That reporter was on to something. If Philly starts slow at least they have 2 solid enough interim candidates now

Same thing that Jim/John Harbaugh do. Same thing that Dan Campbell does... I can go on and on. Not every coach call plays. Nick will coach every aspect of the team. If he doesn't do a good job like last year, he will be fired. Simple. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...