DaWg_LB. Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Hotep Good Brothers…… Its been a while since I posted a topic, I have seen some mention of what is going with the offseason so far, here and there, tucked in to threads, but I felt like with all going on, our Coaching Changes deserve there own Thread. I wanted to get the pulse of the Brothers in here on a few things 1. How do you feel you overall about the moves that were made. 2. Which Move do you like the best 3. Which move do you like the least. 4. What move would you still like to see made 5. General Overall Assessment of any of coaching moves I myself was taken a bit a back by one of the moves that was Made…..and that was firing T.C. McCartney…I thought this was a young coach who was on the rise…much like I felt about Pentzig…(Much like I feel about our CB and SAF coach being coordinators soon). BUT I think we need to remember that Stefanski, who I think SHOULD win NFL Coach of the year for the 2nd time in 4 seasons, we have as Bonfide coaching star on our hands…and as long as we keep him as HC, I think its going to be the Reid effect or the Shannhan effect…they keep winning and grooming young star coaches. When we hired him, he was a YOUNG first time HC that I think took a lil time to find his way and grow into the Big Chair…he had stability for 2 years, found his chops and then made crucial changes (Woods and Priefer)….Now this year he decided to overhaul his Offensive side of the Ball, and truly dial in to what he thinks can take us next level to the Championship. I was a little hurt by Stump Mitchell….but with the failure of there to be an actual young back develop behind ALL WORLD Nick Chubb, and a pretty vanilla running game, I can see the change…and bringing in Deuce Staley, I really think we have a young Super Star coach., Deuce will one day be a HC in this league I feel……it doesn’t hurt he’s from my same hometown, and we played against each other in HS LOL…so IMO this a clear UPGRADE. He replaced TC with Tommy Reese, who was Nick Saban’s last hire as a Football Coach, to me that speaks VOLUMES….and I think this is also another Upgrade…I think its going to take a few years, but this kid has the potential to be a HC in this league. The way he adjusted Alabama’s offense during the year, to actually have them in the College playoffs over #1 start to Last game of the year Georgia, I think that speaks volumes. With Kelvin Rogers and Bill Musgrave on the staff, I felt we had the “Same Guy” with Alex Van Pelt, Bringing in Dorsey as the OC, I really liked that move, I did have a slight advantage to Kellen Moore, but Dorsey got scapegoated in Buffalo. IF we look at the numbers, Dorsey has crafted or help craft an offense based on players and QB strengths in multiple stops. I think this is a clear upgrade….. The one that’s gonna hurt the most is Father Callahan….but can we really be mad at this one. My Old man would have Bolted that day I got the Job the Tenn LOL…so we Wish Bill Well. Now I got in two Direction with this one….my First reaction was GO GET MIKE MUNCHAK, he’s ready to coach again, and wanted to do it in Tenn….why not swap’em out, bring in one of the best, to replace one of the best. But then I look to Scott Peters, he’s a unique coach and brings unique ideas, techniques and perspectives to playing Oline…Is he ready? Could we have the Next Great Oline Coach, home Grown and under our noses? He would need the opportunity to show and prove….do we let him do this with Championship aspirations on the line, or do we go and get a Tried to and True Vet in Munchach? And the last coaching move I’d like to see made the most, and I know I’ve said it before, but I’ma say it again….got get Byron Letwich as our QB’s Coach (hell and throw the title Run Game Coordinator in…even though I think Reese should be given it potentially). We can never have too many smart former QB’s in the mix…and there is no salary cap on coaching staff’s….. LET STEF COOK!!!!! Brothers WHAT say YE!!!! Assessments Please!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Lateral move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Sheesh, nearing Mind Character levels of text wall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I am pretty neutral on all of the moves that have happened. I do think Dorsey was scapegoated for Allen's bad play/picks so feel he will be fine. Just curious if Stef gives him the play calls or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I don’t think the loss of AVP matters. I liked the players that our fired position coaches coached… I like Dorsey, as he brings an entirely new perspective to our offense as someone who understands the deep passing game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Stump was the one that surprised me. I get it, clear drop off after Chubb, but down to OT 4 and 5 and Pocic and Bitonio missing time didn’t help either. Being last in the NFL in turnovers probably spelled the end of AVP, which also raised an eyebrow for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrownsman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1. Overall I think I've been pretty happy with what's happened this offseason. The offense played below what I felt they should have all year. The WR's underperformed and seemed lost. The RB's couldn't block and couldn't find the holes even when they were there. And to top that off, the system didn't seem like it was set up to fit Watson's strengths. I thought they needed an overhaul of the offense like they had of the defense last year. I was surprised it happened because I figured if they were going to overhaul the offense Stefanski would go down with the ship. I was pleasantly surprised when they changed out the room while he was still the coach here. 2. Aside from the move to overhaul the offense in general, I don't think there was a move I liked the best. I really liked Staley as the RB coach, I thought Tommy Rees as the TE coach is a great voice to have in the room and another experienced play caller. I was VERY sad to see Callahan go but I understood why he would want to leave. I thought Andy Dickerson was a really good move. I was also worried they were going to hire a no name yes man who ran the same system as Stefanski as OC and they brought in an experienced voice who runs a different offense in Ken Dorsey. I don't think there has been a move I have disliked yet. 3. If I had to choose I would probably say that I like the Ken Dorsey move the least because I don't like his ability to adapt his offense in the game, but I don't view him as the OC and final say. He is a voice in the room and that's a great place for him. 4. The move I still want to see made is the hiring of a Quarterback Coach. I think its important to have more ideas and more experienced voices and I thought they missed on that when they lost Pentzig and never replaced him. I want to see them bring in someone to work with the QB room specifically. Even if that's to bring along DTR while Watson works mostly with the OC. 5. I don't really have an answer here. I'm excited to see how it plays out. I'm also really interested in seeing how AVP works out in New England. I thought he did a good job calling plays in the playoff game for us. I actually thought that was one of the best called plays in a while for us. I want to see him succeed in New England, along with T.C. McCarney and Scott Peters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DaWg_LB. said: 1. How do you feel you overall about the moves that were made. I’m a fan. I think things became stale tbh and our ground game was as vanilla and boring as I’ve seen in a while. Our offense in general seemed somewhat predictable and boring. Additionally, to hammer this point home for the 10th time or whatever, the idea of “if after 4 years people aren’t poaching your staff it’s time for new ideas” rings true for me. Conceptually we clearly weren’t doing anything that was intriguing anyone. On 2/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DaWg_LB. said: 2. Which Move do you like the best probably Duce. Stump is a well respected dude and all, but I haven’t really seen him develop anyone or create an exciting run game as the coordinator. “Go get ‘em Nick” is a great strategy, but you or I could do that. Additionally, Stump seemed a little more old school in the formations he liked to run from where as with Watson we need to be able to do more out of the gun and pistol, which is something Duce is apparently known for. On 2/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DaWg_LB. said: 3. Which move do you like the least. Dickerson I suppose, just because it involved losing Callahan. I do think he’s a great option, but he’s a step down (as is almost anyone) On 2/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DaWg_LB. said: 4. What move would you still like to see made Honestly the offense looks set. I’d like to see them bring someone in on the defensive side of the ball who can help solve some of the things that hurt them this year, specifically the motion that the Texans uses to bust our arses. Schwartz has been great, but his schemes seem pretty simple, “line up and play”. Good for us, it fits our talent, but sometimes you need to get creative. I’d love to see an up and comer with some interesting wrinkles of their own get added on that side of the ball. On 2/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DaWg_LB. said: 5. General Overall Assessment of any of coaching moves I think they did a great job of not resting on their accomplishments this season and realizing where they want to be and that changes needed to be made to get there based on the personnel we’ve got moving forward. I said it at the time and I stand by it, I don’t think the guys who weren’t retained did a bad job, just that there were better fits moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DawgX Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 32 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Don't know anything about him, but seems like a good hire since the Eagles consistently have one of the best offensive lines every year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, DawgX said: Don't know anything about him, but seems like a good hire since the Eagles consistently have one of the best offensive lines every year. Yeah p much lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I’ve seen a few media folks saying he’s one of the best assistant coaches in the league. So sounds like a good replacement for Dickerson if he eventually gets a OC job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 26 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I’ve seen a few media folks saying he’s one of the best assistant coaches in the league. So sounds like a good replacement for Dickerson if he eventually gets a OC job. I really wonder how the media knows this ****? Or do they just do the same as @DawgX and I and smooth brain it with “he coach good OL so he must be good OL coach”? How does a media type know who does want amongst coaches for a position group unless they played/coached that position for that team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 34 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I really wonder how the media knows this ****? Or do they just do the same as @DawgX and I and smooth brain it with “he coach good OL so he must be good OL coach”? How does a media type know who does want amongst coaches for a position group unless they played/coached that position for that team? I think coaches pay some of the media guys to hype them up. They either pay they with money or become a source. (Like stump and AVP) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I really wonder how the media knows this ****? Or do they just do the same as @DawgX and I and smooth brain it with “he coach good OL so he must be good OL coach”? How does a media type know who does want amongst coaches for a position group unless they played/coached that position for that team? Part of it would come from the league meetings where they all get together and gossip like teenage girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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