WhyAmIHere Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 16 minutes ago, Forge said: I think the fact that they re-signed givens bodes very poorly for Davis, tbh. But we'll see They like to carry 10 defensive linemen. Givens, Bosa, Collins, Jackson, Beal, Floyd, Elliott, YGM, hargrave is already 9. Are we 100% sure they are keeping Elliott? He's not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 12 minutes ago, WhyAmIHere said: Are we 100% sure they are keeping Elliott? He's not very good. Over Davis? Yeah, I'm pretty close to being 100% on that. Its not impossible, but I think the difference has to be substantial. They didn't wait to sign Jordan Elliott. They signed him before FA opened. They gave him a 2 year deal rather than 1 year, and they gave him 3 void years, so he costs more to cut than to keep (not by a lot, so if he really does suck and get outplayed, they can move on). Seeing how they set the deal in such a way shows what the team is thinking there Elliott isn't good, but he has also played quite a few snaps the last two years and last year that defensive line was quite good. I also don't know that he's ever missed a game due to injury. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyAmIHere Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 4 hours ago, Forge said: Over Davis? Yeah, I'm pretty close to being 100% on that. Its not impossible, but I think the difference has to be substantial. They didn't wait to sign Jordan Elliott. They signed him before FA opened. They gave him a 2 year deal rather than 1 year, and they gave him 3 void years, so he costs more to cut than to keep (not by a lot, so if he really does suck and get outplayed, they can move on). Seeing how they set the deal in such a way shows what the team is thinking there Elliott isn't good, but he has also played quite a few snaps the last two years and last year that defensive line was quite good. I also don't know that he's ever missed a game due to injury. I hear you. I just think they really need a young guy to pop in a big way, because on paper I just don't see it. Was listening to Dieter recently and he was down on the dline as well. I look at Detroit and they got three studs waiting to eat up our weak OL. While their powerful OL will probably eat up our DL. Maybe I'm just being too pessimistic, but I didn't like the Floyd or Elliott signings at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, WhyAmIHere said: This got me thinking...When was the last time the Niners drafted a corner who ended up really good? Tarell Brown? Eric Davis??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 4 hours ago, WhyAmIHere said: I hear you. I just think they really need a young guy to pop in a big way, because on paper I just don't see it. Was listening to Dieter recently and he was down on the dline as well. I look at Detroit and they got three studs waiting to eat up our weak OL. While their powerful OL will probably eat up our DL. Maybe I'm just being too pessimistic, but I didn't like the Floyd or Elliott signings at all. From the little of Davis I saw last year, I wasn't impressed. I felt them going out and signing Eillott was a indication that they kind of saw what I did. Though I think Davis is more of the 3T mold and Elliott's skillset lends itself to more of a NT, right now Elliott is clearly the better player imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyAmIHere Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 6 hours ago, 757-NINER said: From the little of Davis I saw last year, I wasn't impressed. He doesn't hold up vs the run for sure. But as a 3T penetrator, he might be the most explosive guy off the line on the roster. In the Eagles game he was actually kind of wrecking dudes on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhyAmIHere said: He doesn't hold up vs the run for sure. But as a 3T penetrator, he might be the most explosive guy off the line on the roster. In the Eagles game he was actually kind of wrecking dudes on passing downs. Forget what game it was but every time I noticed him; he was on the ground. His base isn't strong enough to anchor imo. Penetrating he's ok. His hands are still all over the place, but he has good acceleration in pursuit and initial quickness of the snap. But when he needs to be stout in his gap versus the run, he just doesn't seem to have the core strength to stack and shed. Edited May 17 by 757-NINER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/qbs-under-pressure-in-2023 Just gonna leave this here and walk away. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, JIllg said: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/qbs-under-pressure-in-2023 Just gonna leave this here and walk away. You have to put it in the Goff thread for full impact 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 minutes ago, Forge said: You have to put it in the Goff thread for full impact XD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 5/17/2024 at 10:02 AM, 757-NINER said: Forget what game it was but every time I noticed him; he was on the ground. His base isn't strong enough to anchor imo. Penetrating he's ok. His hands are still all over the place, but he has good acceleration in pursuit and initial quickness of the snap. But when he needs to be stout in his gap versus the run, he just doesn't seem to have the core strength to stack and shed. I remember that game, but I think he was coming off a leg injury. I didn't watch a lot of his college stuff, camp, senior bowl etc to know if it is something that is consistent, but it's possible it's the result of not building the full strength back up. He was pretty bad that game though, he was getting washed really far out of the play. Drake Jackson's biggest flaw is he hits the ground a lot also. With Bosa out there, we don't want guys on the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/18/2024 at 7:02 AM, JIllg said: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/qbs-under-pressure-in-2023 Just gonna leave this here and walk away. I talk to Bryan a good amount on the DVOA discord. Solid dude. Glad he's a 49ers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Aiyuk and 49ers aren't close per Fowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyAmIHere Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 https://x.com/Ninergirl99/status/1792065112465109436 Good to see our guys still having fun. Purdy not drinking ofc lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Forge said: Aiyuk and 49ers aren't close per Fowler. I think Aiyuk playing on the fifth-year deal is more likely now. The pressure is on the 49ers if he holds out. He won't miss any actual games, but Aiyuk being out for the entire training camp will hurt the offense and Purdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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