AngusMcFife Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Predict the contract that the following Ravens FAs will sign (whether they resign with the Ravens or elsewhere): Queen Stone Madubuike (tag is obviously a possibility) Clowney Van Noy Zeitler OBJ Tyler Huntley I'll post a couple guesses later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 Queen: 4 years/$40 million Stone: 3 years/$28 million Madubuike: 4 years/$90 million Clowney: 2 years/$20 million Zeitler: 3 years/$35 million All of these contracts would have about 1/2 to 2/3 of the total as guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 27 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: Queen: 4 years/$40 million Stone: 3 years/$28 million Madubuike: 4 years/$90 million Clowney: 2 years/$20 million Zeitler: 3 years/$35 million All of these contracts would have about 1/2 to 2/3 of the total as guaranteed. Queen: 5 years, $77.5m ($15.5m APY) - I can see him getting a nice size deal considering his incredibly young age and burgeoning leadership qualities. Stone: 2 years, $15m ($7.5m APY) - Teams aren’t sure what to make of him outside our defense and lowball him. Madubuike: 5 years, $110m ($22m APY) - Have a feeling that we sign and trade him to another squad around draft night for a 1st and change. Clowney: 1 year, $12m - Continues to carve out a role as a mercenary with another squad. Zeitler: 3 years, $14.268m ($4.76m) - Essentially it would be a 2 year, $14m deal with the void year guarantee setup. Signs back with and ends his career as a Raven. KVN: 2 years, $5.5m (2.75M APY) - Incentives that could push deal up to $8m for sacks hit. He signs back with the Ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 16 hours ago, diamondbull424 said: Queen: 5 years, $77.5m ($15.5m APY) - I can see him getting a nice size deal considering his incredibly young age and burgeoning leadership qualities. I had Queen at significantly less b/c I think teams will look at him like a luxury LB. He's great when you pair him with another stud off-ball LB, but he hasn't proved that he can run the show and control middle of the field due to his size and inconsistent run fits. Quote Stone: 2 years, $15m ($7.5m APY) - Teams aren’t sure what to make of him outside our defense and lowball him. This is definitely possible. A lot of Stone's INT seemed to be fortunate circumstances rather than great play. But he'll be a starting safety somewhere. Quote Madubuike: 5 years, $110m ($22m APY) - Have a feeling that we sign and trade him to another squad around draft night for a 1st and change. I have him at 4/90, but I think he'll get tagged. So add 1/20 to it and you get 5/110. Quote Zeitler: 3 years, $14.268m ($4.76m) - Essentially it would be a 2 year, $14m deal with the void year guarantee setup. Signs back with and ends his career as a Raven. I had Zeitler considerably higher, simply because I think he might retire if he doesn't get a pretty significant contract. I don't think we can lowball him, and another team desperate for OL play will swoop in and give him one more big payday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, AngusMcFife said: I had Queen at significantly less b/c I think teams will look at him like a luxury LB. He's great when you pair him with another stud off-ball LB, but he hasn't proved that he can run the show and control middle of the field due to his size and inconsistent run fits. Idk. I think his athleticism, improved coverage, age (he’s only 24 years old), accolades (just made second team All Pro), personality all make him someone that will get paid. Roquan and Warner are clearly the top 2 ILBs in the league, but PQ made impact players and won DPOW awards before Roquan got here but was just inconsistent. So I think he’ll be viewed as on a second tier of ILB with the likes of a CJ Mosley. We just saw Tremaine Edmunds, who was another “potential” guy with his athleticism and age at also 24 years old sign for $18m AAV with the same 42 career PFR AV through their first 4 seasons. PQ however is coming off his best season to boot. I think his agent will argue CJ Mosley and Edmund’s as the most comparable contracts and even if he’s forced to not get what he wants he will parachute onto around that $15.5m area. Though if his agent does their job, I think he should really be looking at an $18-18.5M APY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I want PQ to get paid just for the comp pick. I am like 83% sure he's going to flop wherever he goes trying to be "the guy" without Roquan next to him, but that's not our problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/19/2024 at 5:34 PM, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I want PQ to get paid just for the comp pick. I am like 83% sure he's going to flop wherever he goes trying to be "the guy" without Roquan next to him, but that's not our problem. Personally I don’t think he “flops” though I suppose it depends on the definition of flopping. Some might say that CJ Mosley flopped as he sat out during the Covid year and then had an injury prone season following that IIRC, and when he’s on the field he’s just 2nd tier ILB level between his play and leadership. I truly think PQ will be on a similar tier of LB play. I think you give him a thumper LB next to him that helps to allow him to just roam around and play and he has a solid DL in front of him and he can be that guy. The Patriots, I’m not familiar with their defense as much as years past, but I could see him thriving on such a squad under Mayo. The Lions seem like they have a strong DL and he seems like he’d be a great character fit within their defense. We know PQ can make plays, he just hasn’t been consistent. But keep in mind, there are probably LBers in the draft this year that are going to be a similar age to PQ. Roquan allowed him to take his game to the next level, but so did Ray Lewis with tons of running mates. Yet when guys like Jamie Sharper and Bart Scott left, they ultimately continued to play at a high level… I see the same with PQ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 hours ago, diamondbull424 said: Personally I don’t think he “flops” though I suppose it depends on the definition of flopping. This is where I'm at, with the modern offenses being the way they are it's impossible for any ILB to be perfect. There's only ever going to be a couple of guys in the league at one time who can actually play the position at a truly elite level. Guys like Warner and Roquan are those top dogs right now. The ideal LB in the modern game is someone who can cover, stop the small ball game(SF), and rush the QB. PQ can do all 3. Errors and missed plays are inevitable at the position, but it's important to have a player who has the dynamism to hit on low % opportunities. No LB has the complete ability to down in and down out consistently stuff Derrick Henry, stop a Deebo/McCaffrey screen, cover Tyreek or Kelce out of the slot, and run down the league's top mobile QBs. PQ will get a bag because he's one of the few LBs who occasionally will win in all of those situations, whereas a super majority of LBs don't even have the ability to win in those situations at all. I never like feeling like we developed a player for the rest of the league's benefit, but when you hit on so many players that's just the nature of the business. It was nice to see PQ grow into his own and I'm sure he'll make some new club very happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 On 2/18/2024 at 6:16 PM, AngusMcFife said: Madubuike: 4 years/$90 million On 2/18/2024 at 7:14 PM, diamondbull424 said: Madubuike: 5 years, $110m ($22m APY) - Have a feeling that we sign and trade him to another squad around draft night for a 1st and change. Both pretty close, I shorted the contract a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 18 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: Both pretty close, I shorted the contract a bit. Well I was entirely wrong. I felt like we might trade him for value. I thought Mads would care about cracking $100m, but I didn’t think we would want to get close to that number. $24.5m APY is A LOT of money. Mads is going to have to back it up and be a clear cut top 3 player on this defense no questions asked. I’ll need to see the contract structure. With $13.375m APY guaranteed. If this deal is structured so that its performance incentives heavy that basically says Mads gets incentives for making an AP team, for hitting 10+ sacks, for making the PB, etc… then I’m cool with this deal. But he hasn’t had multiple elite seasons before breaking out, so I think his contract needs to reflect that and he should have to earn it otherwise he gets a more comfortable contract APY such as around $18.5m APY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 On 2/18/2024 at 7:14 PM, diamondbull424 said: Stone: 2 years, $15m ($7.5m APY) - Teams aren’t sure what to make of him outside our defense and lowball him. 🎯 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 2/18/2024 at 7:16 PM, AngusMcFife said: Queen: 4 years/$40 million Right back at you. 🎯 This deal honestly upsets me though. I can’t help but feel like with Jordyn Brooks signing for $10m APY that Queen probably had higher offers over the Steelers deal but chose to stay in the division and go to the Steelers no less because he felt disrespected and wanted to make the Ravens pay for not resigning him and going with Roquan instead. I mean $13.67m APY isn’t bad, but I can’t help but think someone had to come in a little higher, but he saw Wilson sign there, believes in that defense, and wants revenge because he’s jaded. I wanted to root for him from afar, but leaving for the Steelers?!? Nah, he can break a leg. That’s like your girl cheating on you with your best friend level of disrespect. He can kick rocks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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