cddolphin Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 hours ago, BroncosFan2010 said: The little Asian girl was a horrendous actor, and her storyline was so forced. Why not let the audience draw their own conclusions on the mistreatment and clear devious ways the people on that casino planet made their $$$? After a few days of reflection, the Finn + asian girl storyline was far and away the worst aspect of the film. They should have trimmed that down, and added more depth to the Snoke / Rey / Kylo triangle/plot, which was easily the best and most exciting parts of the film. I'm not sure Snoke is actually dead, to be honest. If he is... what a disappointing 'penultimate' bad guy! He just seems to have been depicted too powerfully to have the wool pulled over his eyes by Kylo, who clearly still hadn't mastered his own emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Dillon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Rian Johnson never watched the Force Awakens, and he lived in a complete bubble the entire two years since its release. This film had such potential, and TFA left him set for a sequel that everyone wanted to see. There was the mystery around Rey, There was the big bad guy in Snoke who could potentially be the biggest bad guy to ever live. There was the iconic moment where Luke and Rey meet. JJ Abrams set up such an interesting storyline, and we get Rey is a no one, Snoke is dead in the 2nd act of the film and Luke throws the light saber off a cliff and drinks space milk. Then you get crazy throw backs like Yoda, ok i get that, but then suddenly force ghosts have power to call down lightening. That could have been useful for a long time now. Then apparently Jedi have the ability to project themselves across the galaxy, like that is a new one. And apparently snoke has the ability to link two minds, but cant tell hes about to be killed with a light saber. Then there is the whole stroy line with the rebellion. so Leah has some kind of superman powers, but it leaves her unconscious. Then they decide to take a guy like Poe and literally cause him to kill half of the rebellion with some plan that doesnt even make sense. They are running for their lives when apparently they have ships that can jump to hyperspace without being tracked.....not only that but the only thing it takes to wipe out the fleet is to go into light speed???? why not do that before all the transport ships are destroyed. the only thing the movie got right was having Kylo Ren become the new Supreme Leader. Hopefully Episode 9 is a few years later and Kylo has taken on an apprentice. I am hoping that they end this trilogy with Kylo and Rey ruling the Galaxy together as sith lords....but alas it will probably see something stupid like Kylo coming back to the light and sacrificing himself to save Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Wow I actually go on holiday for 2 weeks. Come back and people are still complaining about the same problems. Guess the problem is more then just "I didn't like what was written." ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, cddolphin said: After a few days of reflection, the Finn + asian girl storyline was far and away the worst aspect of the film. They should have trimmed that down, and added more depth to the Snoke / Rey / Kylo triangle/plot, which was easily the best and most exciting parts of the film. I'm not sure Snoke is actually dead, to be honest. If he is... what a disappointing 'penultimate' bad guy! He just seems to have been depicted too powerfully to have the wool pulled over his eyes by Kylo, who clearly still hadn't mastered his own emotions. I thought it was funny that both of them felt better after saving a bunch of animals saying it was worth it. Giving no mention or probably even a second thought to all the slave children they left behind. Cause eff them right? ? Your right, that triangle part could have defined the trilogy in a key moment had they led up to it right and done it right. Buut it was totally cliche, and as was pointed out in The Incredibles. This is why you don't monologue giving the good guy or in this case your enemy the chance to plan your demise. Snoke was written very well by JJ Abrams in his set up with the mystery and everything. Rain Johnson just completely botched the character because I can only guess, he didn't care for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 This was a pretty funny skit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Is a trilogy that alternates writers something we have seen before? It just seems so silly to me the more I think about it. A Star Wars trilogy should tell 1 over arching story, the seeds for the final act in the 3rd installment should have been sewn in the 1st installment... and if not for some flukey mishaps, there would have actually been 3 separate directors and writers for each film. How would that work? Is there some higher power at Lucasfilms monitoring the writing process for each film and enforcing the agreed upon over arching story (is there one?), or is this just up to the new director's discretion what direction he wants the trilogy to go in? Having different directors, now that's a great. I think the reason the originals are so good is because each film felt a little different due to the different directors. You still had George of course writing the story and controlling the macro aspects of how everything unfold, but each director had their own personal touch for the small stuff in between, I assume anyway. Different writers though? Seems so silly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 47 minutes ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Is a trilogy that alternates writers something we have seen before? It just seems so silly to me the more I think about it. A Star Wars trilogy should tell 1 over arching story, the seeds for the final act in the 3rd installment should have been sewn in the 1st installment... and if not for some flukey mishaps, there would have actually been 3 separate directors and writers for each film. How would that work? Is there some higher power at Lucasfilms monitoring the writing process for each film and enforcing the agreed upon over arching story (is there one?), or is this just up to the new director's discretion what direction he wants the trilogy to go in? Having different directors, now that's a great. I think the reason the originals are so good is because each film felt a little different due to the different directors. You still had George of course writing the story and controlling the macro aspects of how everything unfold, but each director had their own personal touch for the small stuff in between, I assume anyway. Different writers though? Seems so silly to me. Unless Disney is looking at this as more like a Harry Potter universe, and the whole "trilogy" idea is just out the window. I haven't read that anywhere though. After Rian Johnson just nuked the universe its going to be hard to wrap it up in one more movie IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Is a trilogy that alternates writers something we have seen before? MCU, maybe? That's all that comes to mind w/o diving into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnygsm Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 The Red Letter Media guys' "Half in the bag" kind of sums up my general feelings quite well. I maybe liked it more than them, but I share their general lack of excitement for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Leia was going to be such a big part of Episode IX... RIP Carrie Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Rose kinda was a stupid character that didn't really need to be there. Her and Finn's plot seems pointless now, but I have to believe their whole thing meant something. For all we know, that little kid at the end is going to be a major character in the next trilogy. I guess I looked at the movie as more than the sum of its parts. Nitpicking gets nobody anywhere with a movie like Star Wars. You just enjoy the ride, man. Just enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 8 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Leia was going to be such a big part of Episode IX... RIP Carrie Fisher. Which is why they should have changed script and kept Mark Hamill around and alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said: Rose kinda was a stupid character that didn't really need to be there. Her and Finn's plot seems pointless now, but I have to believe their whole thing meant something. For all we know, that little kid at the end is going to be a major character in the next trilogy. I guess I looked at the movie as more than the sum of its parts. Nitpicking gets nobody anywhere with a movie like Star Wars. You just enjoy the ride, man. Just enjoy the ride. Rose was kind of a affirmative action decision if no one caught that. Black guy, white girl, asian girl, and what ever Oscar Isaac is. So theres balance there 2 women 2 guys all minorities fighting against 2 white male oppressors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, HorizontoZenith said: You just enjoy the ride, man. Just enjoy the ride. Yes but it was a clunky ride where I was being yanked out of immersion (casino planet, dopey jokes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Calvert28 said: Rose was kind of a affirmative action decision if no one caught that. Black guy, white girl, asian girl, and what ever Oscar Isaac is. So theres balance there 2 women 2 guys all minorities fighting against 2 white male oppressors. Lets... no one respond to this. K? Thnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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