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.Buzz Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 That's a little bit more than I was expecting. Don't even care though, we have the money and he has been on pace to be an high end to possibly even elite C/RG pending on where we end up putting him. We need to get some of these guys locked up, glad we're getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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.Buzz Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'd have a big smile on my face too. Wonder if everyone saying "highest paid C in history" means that they heard he's sticking there or it's just because he played there last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Guess that answers my question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its A Sabotage Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 that is a lot of money for a player that has been hurt and some wanted to change positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Was statistcally a top 5 center last year according to PFF behind Parades, Hudson, Mack, and Frederick in his first year after the position change. He got more total money than Alex Mack but less in guarantees. Looks like a fine deal for a young C to me if he sticks there. Otherwise he moves back to RG where he played very well at. Think he probably stays at C though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Its A Sabotage said: that is a lot of money for a player that has been hurt and some wanted to change positions The health part is definitely concerning. The people (and there were some) that wanted him to switch because he "wasn't that good at C" were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its A Sabotage Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, iPwn said: The health part is definitely concerning. The people (and there were some) that wanted him to switch because he "wasn't that good at C" were wrong. https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/889961752867332097 jaguars 25th in adjusted yards up the middle, i know it is more than just a center thats at fault but the other top-5 paid centers have an adjusted rank in the top-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its A Sabotage Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 fwiw spotrac estimated linder at 5/32 or ~7.2 a year he got 10aav http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/brandon-linder-14504/market-value/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Its A Sabotage said: https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/889961752867332097 jaguars 25th in adjusted yards up the middle, i know it is more than just a center thats at fault but the other top-5 paid centers have an adjusted rank in the top-10 I feel that's much more Pillow Hand Luke at LG and Cann playing poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, iPwn said: I feel that's much more Pillow Hand Luke at LG and Cann playing poorly. ^ No doubt that needs to improve if our C is making that much money, but that piled in with the fact that this was his first year at center (and again, according to most he was one of the best overall centers this year. There's a PFF picture of their top 5 centers from this past year as I posted above) I think this was more of what they expect him to be in the future. Like I said, got a smaller guarantee than Mack did last year for sure. This is generally what happens with new extensions, previous high amounts get topped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 My problem with this is that the injury history should have given the discount Spotrac was predicting or at least made a portion of this incentive based. Instead, they gave him what a three year healthy Linder would have gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Also one has to wonder if you're willing to invest that much at Center, why they didn't put a lot more effort into fixing a Guard spot to make the unit better than 25th collectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 According to PFF, Watford ranked 73rd out of 73 eligible Guards last year. Cann ranked 43rd. So there's merit to it not being Linder's fault. But if you're making him that highly paid, you probably need to do more on the interior than they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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