SpanosPayYourRent Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I honest to god think the Pats got bailed again it was obviously a TD and then after that they chocked the game away, at most, it was a fumble recovery in the end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 You have to maintain control of the ball if you take it to ground. Just like anywhere else on the field. No TD. Awful rule, good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, SpanosPayYourRent said: I honest to god think the Pats got bailed again it was obviously a TD and then after that they chocked the game away, at most, it was a fumble recovery in the end zone How can it be a fumble if he didn't maintain control. It's either a caught TD or an incomplete pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 How many less comebacks does Brady have if teams stopped Wilsoning it at the goal line or in comeback opportunities of their own? And yet it's "dumbest thing on this site" to suggest Belichick is more responsible for the continued success of the Patriots. Because Tom Brady coached by Hue Jackson would win five Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: You have to maintain control of the ball if you take it to ground. Just like anywhere else on the field. No TD. Awful rule, good call. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, HorizontoZenith said: How many less comebacks does Brady have if teams stopped Wilsoning it at the goal line or in comeback opportunities of their own? And yet it's "dumbest thing on this site" to suggest Belichick is more responsible for the continued success of the Patriots. Because Tom Brady coached by Hue Jackson would win five Super Bowls. Sorry, what's this got to do with the question? How about you put your petty hatred aside for the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: You have to maintain control of the ball if you take it to ground. Just like anywhere else on the field. No TD. Awful rule, good call. Exactly. If this is play is towards the sideline no one is complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Hunter2_1 said: Sorry, what's this got to do with the question? How about you put your petty hatred aside for the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, HorizontoZenith said: lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Absolutely horrific rule and the right call, although I'm still not sure there's "definitive evidence" that shows he didn't have his hand underneath the ball, even if it wobbled a little upon touching the ground/his hand underneath/probably not. 100% of fans complaining or loving the call would reverse their opinion if it were the other way around. Ask all 106 players and every coach on the field if it's a catch, and they say "Of course. He clearly caught/controlled the ball and then lunged for the end zone a little after possession. TD" Unfortunately the rule itself is a terrible one and they probably got the call right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 So yeah, TD if fans and players made the rules. No TD under current NFL legislation. Quite frankly I don't see the point in continuing this discussion. We'd all change the rule, even us Pat fans, but we can't. No TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, MWil23 said: Absolutely horrific rule and the right call, although I'm still not sure there's "definitive evidence" That's the biggest problem I have with it. It was not 100%. The refs this year have REALLY screwed the pooch with the entire irrefutable evidence factor. They don't understand the meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It is confusing for me. If a runner can stretch his arm out so the ball is over the goal line for a moment even if he brings it back on the other side of that line its a TD but not in this instance? Was James a runner here? I thought once the ball crosses the goal line it is a TD...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iothar Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Pugger said: It is confusing for me. If a runner can stretch his arm out so the ball is over the goal line for a moment even if he brings it back on the other side of that line its a TD but not in this instance? Was James a runner here? I thought once the ball crosses the goal line it is a TD...? If you mid air catch it you have no established possession unless you are A. Running with it. B. Going to the ground and maintain possession from contact with the ground. It doesn't matter where you are. The position of the goal line only mattered in this case if he was pushed back and maintained possession of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 votes for Yes, but I've not heard a single justification for it. What do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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