zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Not a playoff picture, based on current standings (19 dec) 1- Browns : Sam Darnold QB USC Josh Rosen looks like the more ready but if Darnold declares he is the one despite his mechanics. Big arm, throwing accurately while escaping the pressure , throwing through tight windows. He made mistakes this past season but that is not what scouts look for. He has a bright future, my humble opinion. 2- Giants : Josh Rosen QB UCLA It seems time is coming to see someone else than Eli under center for the Giants. And im not talking about Geno Smith. Rosen has some flaws but the biggest probably is his free speaking vs NewYork medias ! It could be a distration. But on the field that guy has tons of talent and the potential to be their face of the franchise for the next 10+ years. 3- Colts : Quenton Nelson G Notre Dame We rarely see an interior lineman selected that high but they have to do their best to keep Luck healthy. Put Nelson between Castonzo and Kelly and Luck should have some time to throw. OTs bring more positionnal value but Nelson is by far the best Olineman of that draft. 4- 49ers : Minkah Fitzpatrick CB Alabama Barkley would be enticing especially with his pass catching abilities as we saw what Shany did with his RBs in Atlanta in the passing game. Talking about his former RBs, they were a 4th and a 3rd rounder so i guess he could pass on one in the top 5. Especially with such a deep class. That team need a CB the worst way and Fitzpatrick is versatile and very good everywhere, outside, nickel or outside. 5- Cleveland via Texans : Saquon Barkley RB Penn St Tremendous back who can run outside or between tackles. He also has a great character and great hands to be a factor in the passing game. 6- Bucs : Bradley Chubb DE NC St Various dysfonctionnal things on that team and the biggest one is a weak pass rush. Chubb is a cant miss at this point with his pass rush abilities and his way to also defend the run in a division with some very good QBs and very good RBs. 7- Bears : Mike McGlinchey OT Notre Dame How to help a young QB ? Either by selecting a #1 WR or giving to him more protection. Leno is playing well this year but Massie, though not garbage, is average at best despite having a decent season. McGlinchey isn't perfect though but he increases his value with his ability to play on both sides. 8- Broncos : Da'Ron Payne NT Alabama We saw what Peko did bring to that defense but he is 33 and cant be the future. Payne is not only a product of the system in 'Bama, he is very good on his own not because he is surrounded by good players. 9- Jets : Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma He is undersized yes. He raises some off field questions yes. Lamar Jackson depsite flaws on his game has more impressive traits. But his successor as the Heisman winner is a better passer. If he were 6'4 he would be in most mock drafts the #1 ! (Okay if he were 6'4 he would not play the same way). But a tall QB playing at this level leading a major program to playoffs would be considered a top 5 pick if not the #1. Most of time size matters but not always, he could be one of those examples of it. He is accurate, he is mobile too. He has work ethic and his teammate root for him. And his grinta is something very valuable for a team trying to have some success (Grinta = Winner/fighter mentality). 10- Bengals : Chukwuma Okorafor OT Western Michigan I cant wait to see that dude at the Senior Bowl. 11- Redskins : Roquan Smith LB Georgia Is he the best ILB to come out since years ? Better than both Rueben Foster and Myles Jack ? He is probably the one with the most potential since Ryan Shazier. Both Zach Brown and Mason Foster will be FA and for now, Kirk Cousins is still a Redskin. 12- Raiders : Maurice Hurst DT Michigan They have to increase pressure on opposite QBs. Mack and Irvin are doing it outside but some inside pass rush is needed. Hurst is very disruptive and i bet he'll steal the show in Mobile. 13- Dolphins : Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma Lack of consistency and probably better on the right side but there he could replace FA to be James and open-up lanes for Drake and whoever else will play RB for that offense. 14- Cardinals : Josh Allen QB Wyoming Very raw but like a diamond can be raw. Arians knows some about QBs and one year (or half of it) behind Gabbert while working on his flaws and that guy could be their new face of the franchise. 15- Chargers : Derwin James S Florida St He sure could go higher especially with a good combine but i thought Malik Hooker too would go much higher. 16- Packers : Carlton Davis CB Auburn They still need to improve their coverage. Davis has size and cover skills to warrant a mid first round pick. 17- Bills : Arden Key DE LSU Will Hughes be there next year ? Key could replace him. He is an highly talented player but will drop some because of some off field issues. 18- Bills via Chiefs : Christian Wilkins DT Clemson 19- Cowboys : Vita Vea NT Washington With Crawford, Collins or Irving (FA) they have yet guys to put pressure from the inside, what they lack is a big run stuffer in the middle, one better than FA to be Paea. Vea is a moutain of a man with some pass rush abilities but his real strength is to occupy blockers and to oblige RBs to take a looong road to get around him. 20- Titans : Denzel Ward CB Ohio St Does not have ideal size but he is glue to WRs. 21- Ravens : Courtland Sutton WR SMU He could go much higher as personnaly i see him being better or at least as good as Corey Davis who went #5 last year. We're still far from April... 22- Lions : Derrius Guice RB LSU Will they find a RB able to carry the load ? Or maybe the question is will they draft a RB able to stay healthy ? 23- Seahawks : Clellin Ferrell DE Clemson They did bring in Freeney and Jordan but neither are a solution as quality depth on the Dline is a must for them. Ferrell would bring that and he has the potential to be a starter in the near future as Avril is 31 and Bennett 32. 24- Falcons : Taven Bryan DE Florida I bet Clayborn will cash in his good season so Bryan could replace him at a cheaper price. He would be an upgrade over Shelby and Crawford with who he'd rotate on their Dline. 25- Jaguars : Calvin Ridley WR Alabama Despite his drops i like Lee but they wont have money for everyone and ARob is a priority. No emergency with Cole, Westbrook and Wickens on the roster but Ridley is a special talent and will help Bortles or someone else under center. 26- Rams : Billy Price C/G Ohio St 1- Price could upgrade Sullivan 2- Price can play guard. There is two solid starters in Saffold and Brown but injuries happen so it is valuable to have someone who can slide without loosing quality from C to G 3- Sullivan is good but he isn't the future, will be FA and the Rams have a young QB there for a long time. 27- Panthers : Ronnie Harrison S Alabama A solid defender on his own, not only because there is good ones around him. He has very good size and impact the game via tackles in the box but also coverage skills. 28- Steelers : Justin Reid S Stanford Mike Mitchell could be upgraded and Reid is versatile enough to form a great duo with Sean Davis for the future. 29- Vikings : Will Hernandez G UTEP Not the biggest one but reports on him are very good. We will see him at the Senior Bowl and we'll know more about his level. 30- Saints : Rashaan Evans LB Alabama Manti Teo isn't bad especially covering TEs but they'd benefit to have such a mike next to Klein and Anzalone/Robertson. 31- Patriots : Joshua Jackson CB Iowa They have yet Gilmore and Jones but Butler could leave. 32- Eagles : Christian Kirk WR TAM Dynamic weapon to replace FA to be Torrey Smith. SECOND ROUND 33- Browns : Marcell Ateman WR Oklahoma St 34- Giants : Bryce Love RB Stanford 35- Colts : Damien Harris RB Alabama 36- Patriots via 49ers : Josh Allen LB Kentucky 37- Browns via Texans : Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado 38- Bucs : DeShon Elliott S Texas 39- Bears : Equanimous StBrown WR Notre Dame 40- Broncos : Brian O'Neill OT Pitt 41- Jets : Frank Ragnow C Arkansas 42- Redskins : Derrick Nnadi DT Florida St 43- Bengals : Braden Smith G Auburn 44- Raiders : Jaire Alexander CB Louisville 45- Dolphins : Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 46- Cardinals : Kolton Miller OT UCLA 47- Chargers : Connor Williams OT Texas 48- Packers : Austin Bryant OLB Clemson 49- Ravens : Dallas Goedert TE South Dakota St 50- Bills : Lamar Jackson QB Louisville 51- Cowboys : Martinas Rankin G Miss St 52- Titans : Harold Landry OLB Boston College 53- Chiefs : James Washington WR Oklahoma St 54- Lions : Mason Cole C Michigan 55- Jets via Seahawks : Royce Freeman RB Oregon 56- Falcons : Isaiah Wynn G Georgia 57- Jaguars : Martez Ivey G/OT Florida 58- Bills via Rams : Jerome Baker LB Ohio St 59- Panthers : Sam Hubbard DE Ohio St 60- Steelers : Kevin Tolliver CB LSU 61- Vikings : Dre'Mont Jones DT Ohio St 62- 49ers via Saints : Simmie Cobbs WR Indiana 63- Patriots : Desmond Harrison OT West Georgia 64- Browns via Eagles : TRADE Browns receive M.Wilkerson DT 64- Jets : Jamarco Jones OT Ohio St THIRD ROUND 65- Browns : TRADE Browns receive A.Smith QB 65- Chiefs : Marcus Davenport OLB UTSA 66- Giants : Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon 67- Colts : Malik Jefferson LB Texas 68- 49ers : Ross Pierschbacher G Alabama 69- Texans : Quin Blanding S Virginia 70- Bucs : Ken Webster CB Ole Miss 71- 49ers via Bears : Ronald Jones RB USC 72- Broncos : Mark Gesicki TE Penn State 73- Jets : Ogbonnia Okoronkwo OLB Oklahoma 74- Redskins : Michael Gallup WR Colorado St 75- Bengals : Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 76- Raiders : Sony Michel RB Georgia 77- Dolphins : Nick Chubb RB Georgia 78- Cardinals : J.C. Jackson CB Maryland 79- Chargers : Drew Lock QB Missouri 80- Packers : Hayden Hurst TE South Carolina 81- Ravens : Anthony Miller WR Memphis 82- Panthers via Bills : Dante Pettis WR Washington 83- Cowboys : Matthew Thomas LB Florida St 84- Titans : Trenton Thompson DT Georgia 85- Chiefs : Tavarrus McFadden CB Florida St 86- Lions : Dontavius Russell DT Auburn 87- Texans via Seahawks : Andre Dillard OT Washington St 88- Falcons : Rashaad Penny RB SanDiego St 89- Jaguars : Adam Brenneman TE UMass 90- Rams : Holton Hill CB Texas 91- Panthers : Josh Adams RB Notre Dame 92- Steelers : Kurt Benkert QB Virginia 93- Vikings : Duke Ejiofor DE Wake Forest 94- Saints : Dorance Armstrong edge Kansas 95- Patriots : Luke Falk QB Washington St 96- Bills via Eagles : Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 why in the world would the browns trade for mo wilkerson besides that they are the browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Not sure about Key. McDermott preaches clean men off the field and usually likes his DE's to be 270+. I really like Wilkins and love Jackson in round 2, though I can't see it happening. Also Carolina has Buffalo's 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: why in the world would the browns trade for mo wilkerson besides that they are the browns Because they need interior pass rush along with veteran players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said: Not sure about Key. McDermott preaches clean men off the field and usually likes his DE's to be 270+. I really like Wilkins and love Jackson in round 2, though I can't see it happening. Also Carolina has Buffalo's 3rd round pick. Oh thats true..thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I wouldn't complain about that Vikings draft at all. I can see them passing on DE in round three and go with QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, The Gnat said: I wouldn't complain about that Vikings draft at all. I can see them passing on DE in round three and go with QB. Why ? Bridgewater will be there right ? Dont you think they'll resign Keenum too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, zappa13004 said: Why ? Bridgewater will be there right ? Dont you think they'll resign Keenum too ? Bridgewater, Bradford, Keenum are all free agents. I think they either keep Bridgewater or Keenum, because both will be paid decently well, and Bradford won't be brought back. I could see in the middle of the draft the Vikings taking a QB as a long term back-up option with chances of becoming a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, The Gnat said: Bridgewater, Bradford, Keenum are all free agents. I think they either keep Bridgewater or Keenum, because both will be paid decently well, and Bradford won't be brought back. I could see in the middle of the draft the Vikings taking a QB as a long term back-up option with chances of becoming a starter. Oh yeah, just understood ! I knew about Keenum and Bradford but i thought Bridgewater will be under contract. The thing is "if on injured list and not playing" his last rookie season would have been on 2018. But he played vs Bengals. So free-agent. So possible selection of a QB, indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, zappa13004 said: Because they need interior pass rush along with veteran players. possibly they sign him. but theres no way mo has second round or hell fourth round value with his lack of performance and off field issues plus the huge contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: possibly they sign him. but theres no way mo has second round or hell fourth round value with his lack of performance and off field issues plus the huge contract I think a very late 2nd round is good value. He is only 28 and while having an average season, he proved to be an impact player. His contract is big but the cap space is too. But maybe im wrong about the trade value, possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Rosen will be a far better prospect then Darnold IMO. Darnold i think will be excellent but will take him 3-4 years whereas Rosen i believe will take 2-3 Years. However i feel it wont matter who they have at QB if they make sure they get Barkley as well. Talk about turning a team around. Stud QB, Stud RB rookie pairing and then go get yourself a good WR to replace Gordon who we all know will **** up. and add some Defensive pieces in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, IrishHooligan00 said: Rosen will be a far better prospect then Darnold Thats your opinion not a truth right ? Me, i like Rosen but i prefer Darnold. I think both are very good and i liked them both this season in the games i watched. Darnold has more "wow" potential i think, i saw him making some "wow" throws i didn't see from Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, zappa13004 said: Thats your opinion not a truth right ? Me, i like Rosen but i prefer Darnold. I think both are very good and i liked them both this season in the games i watched. Darnold has more "wow" potential i think, i saw him making some "wow" throws i didn't see from Rosen. I was only able to watch about 3 games each of rosen and darnold. When i watched darnold he was highly unaccurate from the pocket on deep throws that i saw. Rosen downside i think is his ability not to get out of the pocket and extend plays as much as darnold can. Basically Darnold and Rosen are this years Wentz and Goff. I think theyll battle very well on who the better pick was for the next 15 years IF CLE doesn't **** up haha. oh who am i kidding Whoever goes to CLE is ****ed unless they get barkley running 30-40 carries a game lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, IrishHooligan00 said: I was only able to watch about 3 games each of rosen and darnold. When i watched darnold he was highly unaccurate from the pocket on deep throws that i saw. Rosen downside i think is his ability not to get out of the pocket and extend plays as much as darnold can. Basically Darnold and Rosen are this years Wentz and Goff. I think theyll battle very well on who the better pick was for the next 15 years IF CLE doesn't **** up haha. oh who am i kidding Whoever goes to CLE is ****ed unless they get barkley running 30-40 carries a game lmao Thats it. Darnold is impressive when throwing in motion ! Rosen won the recent USC-UCLA, he was very good and as you wrote it, they both are really good like Goff-Wentz. I also think Darnold has a stronger body to take hits and avoid injuries than Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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