808 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, vike daddy said: Bradford played very well last year, our third string offensive line did not. success or failure usually has a lot more to do with than just who the QB is, you know that. Thanks for Derek Barnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 he played meh... other than the whole setting an NFLall time record for completion percentage, yeah. you're right, meh. but this discussion is about this year's playoffs, supposedly. let's stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, vike daddy said: he played meh... other than the whole setting an NFLall time record for completion percentage, yeah. you're right, meh. but this discussion is about this year's playoffs, supposedly. let's stay there. Edited my post with a bit of followup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Danger said: Edited my post with a bit of followup. sigh... of course Bradford was checking down, with a literal third string 0-line you don't have time to develop longer passes. why are we talking about Bradford though? it's not the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Danger said: He played meh Bradford literally had the lowest "Average Intended Air Yards" in 2016 in the entire league at 7.2 yards through the air on an attempt. He's captain Checkdown, his numbers should be pretty good since he played it safe. Well, when you have a second and a half to throw the ball, that shouldn't come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, disaacs said: Well, when you have a second and a half to throw the ball, that shouldn't come as a surprise. He had 2.48 seconds to throw the ball on average, not by any means great, but hyperbole is hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Bradford played very well last year, our third string offensive line did not. success or failure usually has a lot more to do with than just who the QB is, you know that. Until everyone figured out Bradford isn't ever going to win you anything. His completion percentage doesn't tell the whole story. And it's more like his high completion percentage is the reason why the team went nowhere. Keenum is in the same mold. He'll do enough most games to keep you in but will ultimately show his form if/when relied upon. The defense is phenomenal. And you need to hope the game doesn't turn offensive. Sure. But good QBs can make a bad team good and a good team great. The Vikings are good. Keenum just keeps them good. He knows his role. If/once he needs to start pushing the ball, he'll miscue. He's Case Keenum. Should I be looking at a 30 year old, career backup and be trembling? Like I said, not worried about Keenum at all. The other half of the Vikings? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I watched Sam Bradford for a whole year. And rarely was I impressed. I have to question anyone's eyes and football acumen when they tell me Bradford is good. Especially watching every snap for a year. He's the definition of middling. In order to be great in this league as a QB, you have to push the ball in spots. Sometimes spots that are uncomfortable. But the good ones complete passes where average ones would fail to even attempt the throw. Guys like Bradford will take the easy 4 yard completion over a 12 yard tight window 9 times out of 10. Even when the game is on the line or when the team needs to be put on his back. He's scared of failure or turning the ball over or having the blame. I dunno. Something. He doesn't have it. Keenum may have it. But he lacks the skill/mental ability to get it done. He'll show his colors. Playoffs tend to expose these things and Case's case will be no different. He'll ride that defense as much as he can. As he should. But it's the playoffs and it's a test for every team, no matter how good they are. And there will come a time where the ball will be solely on Keenum and he'll just be Case Keenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jroc04 said: I watched Sam Bradford for a whole year. And rarely was I impressed. I have to question anyone's eyes and football acumen when they tell me Bradford is good. Especially watching every snap for a year. He's the definition of middling. In order to be great in this league as a QB, you have to push the ball in spots. Sometimes spots that are uncomfortable. But the good ones complete passes where average ones would fail to even attempt the throw. Guys like Bradford will take the easy 4 yard completion over a 12 yard tight window 9 times out of 10. Even when the game is on the line or when the team needs to be put on his back. He's scared of failure or turning the ball over or having the blame. I dunno. Something. He doesn't have it. Keenum may have it. But he lacks the skill/mental ability to get it done. He'll show his colors. Playoffs tend to expose these things and Case's case will be no different. He'll ride that defense as much as he can. As he should. But it's the playoffs and it's a test for every team, no matter how good they are. And there will come a time where the ball will be solely on Keenum and he'll just be Case Keenum. I won't pretend to know about Keenum, but that's completely accurate for Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Danger said: He had 2.48 seconds to throw the ball on average, not by any means great, but hyperbole is hyperbole. On average is not what we were seeing the last half of the season. And while I'm certainly not going to profess that Bradford is the greatest thing since sliced bread, when he's healthy, he is an upper echelon QB. Maybe you didn't see it in 2015 or in our game last season, but he did show it Week 1 of this season. What Jroc indicated above as the sign of being great in this league, Bradford had it Week 1. If anything, he's just too soft physically...anything less than completely healthy, he's middling. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Everyone sucks. Nicky Nine Inch > Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBreezy Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Daimonas said: Everyone sucks. Nicky Nine Inch > Brady Nicky Nine Inch is already across the first down marker on 3rd and short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Daimonas said: Everyone sucks. Nicky Nine Inch > Brady you selling nick short? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: you selling nick short? by default, nicky nine inch can't be short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Daimonas said: by default, nicky nine inch can't be short. yeah he has to be like 6 foot 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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