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Just now, iPwn said:

I just talked to him. He missed the email, but should be here soon.

@hrubes20

Yeah, I'm an idiot.  But I'm digging this new format.

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1 minute ago, hrubes20 said:

Yeah, I posted about him in the other thread.  He figured something out about his sequencing that has helped a lot, but it also doesn't hurt that he found 3-4 mph on his heater, which is really heavy to begin with.  Tons of grounders.

Lots of murmurs that he'll make the major league roster by the end of the season. 

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1 minute ago, hrubes20 said:

Yeah, I posted about him in the other thread.  He figured something out about his sequencing that has helped a lot, but it also doesn't hurt that he found 3-4 mph on his heater, which is really heavy to begin with.  Tons of grounders.

Does he have a third pitch, or is it just the fastball and Curve?

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1 minute ago, Breesus mode said:

Does he have a third pitch, or is it just the fastball and Curve?

He has a slider as well, I believe, but it's not one that he uses that regularly.  The other two pitches are good enough that he could be a really good pen arm without a 3rd.

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2 minutes ago, iPwn said:

Lots of murmurs that he'll make the major league roster by the end of the season. 

He's Rule 5 eligible this offseason, and any rebuilding team would take a chance on that kind of arm with the season he's had.  He will either be on the 40 man or traded.  He actually seems like a Beane type of acquistion.  

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2 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

He actually seems like a Beane type of acquistion.  

You suggesting what I think you're suggesting?

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1 minute ago, iPwn said:

You suggesting what I think you're suggesting?

Yes.  The more I think about it, the more I think Beane would really jump at a package like Almora/Candelario/Albertos/Maples for Gray.  I'm actually not sure the Cubs would deal that much, as they love Almora, but I don't think there is much debate that he's more expendable than Happ right now.

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10 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

He has a slider as well, I believe, but it's not one that he uses that regularly.  The other two pitches are good enough that he could be a really good pen arm without a 3rd.

So the Slider is completely useless?

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10 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

He's Rule 5 eligible this offseason, and any rebuilding team would take a chance on that kind of arm with the season he's had.  He will either be on the 40 man or traded.  He actually seems like a Beane type of acquistion.  

With the way Gray's value cratered, he and Candelario may be enough

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Just now, Breesus mode said:

So the Slider is completely useless?

I'm actually not even sure it's exactly a slider.  But whatever it is, it's only a show-me pitch for the time being.

Just now, Breesus mode said:

With the way Gray's value cratered, he and Candelario may be enough

Not with how much competition there is for Gray.  He's still a MOR starter with 2.5 years of team control left.  

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2 minutes ago, Breesus mode said:

With the way Gray's value cratered, he and Candelario may be enough

That's what I thought hrubes was suggesting. I would do that. But I don't know if Beane wouldn't hold him a bit longer in that scenario.

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5 minutes ago, hrubes20 said:

I'm actually not even sure it's exactly a slider.  But whatever it is, it's only a show-me pitch for the time being.

Not with how much competition there is for Gray.  He's still a MOR starter with 2.5 years of team control left.  

So its a junk pitch he'll toss every once and a while to mess with hitters.

I wouldn't be so sure about that

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Just now, Breesus mode said:

So its a junk pitch he'll toss every once and a while to mess with hitters.

I wouldn't be so sure about that

It's certainly possible.  Like I said, Beane is crazy sometimes.  But the market trade price for a solid MOR starter with 2.5 years of team control left should be more than Candelario/Maples.  

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1 minute ago, hrubes20 said:

It's certainly possible.  Like I said, Beane is crazy sometimes.  But the market trade price for a solid MOR starter with 2.5 years of team control left should be more than Candelario/Maples.  

Absolutely, I'm just saying its possible

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