Shylo3716 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 The Browns officially secured the #1 overall pick. As we all know, free agency comes before the draft, so they now have options that should raise eyebrows, because they may be able to sign a solid vet. Even if they don’t sign a quarterback, would their GM be considered a genius to trade their pick with Buffalo (who needs a quarterback) to take their 2 picks in the first-round and potentially select Lamar Jackson in the 20s? It may seem far fetched, but look at how it has worked out for the Sixers by racking up on picks. Keep in mind that they have nothing to lose because they are not in a win now/playoff run situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shylo3716 said: The Browns officially secured the #1 overall pick. As we all know, free agency comes before the draft, so they now have options that should raise eyebrows, because they may be able to sign a solid vet. Even if they don’t sign a quarterback, would their GM be considered a genius to trade their pick with Buffalo (who needs a quarterback) to take their 2 picks in the first-round and potentially select Lamar Jackson in the 20s? It may seem far fetched, but look at how it has worked out for the Sixers by racking up on picks. Keep in mind that they have nothing to lose because they are not in a win now/playoff run situation. Except there's a HUGE difference between possibly getting more top 3 picks as opposed to getting picks that are currently projected to be 17th and 25th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod01 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Shylo3716 said: The Browns officially secured the #1 overall pick. As we all know, free agency comes before the draft, so they now have options that should raise eyebrows, because they may be able to sign a solid vet. Even if they don’t sign a quarterback, would their GM be considered a genius to trade their pick with Buffalo (who needs a quarterback) to take their 2 picks in the first-round and potentially select Lamar Jackson Baker Mayfield in the 20s? It may seem far fetched, but look at how it has worked out for the Sixers by racking up on picks. Keep in mind that they have nothing to lose because they are not in a win now/playoff run situation. This is a way better idea. They just had Lamar Jackson v1 last year and saw how bad he sucked. If you can't pass the ball and have to rely on your legs as a QB, you are an injury waiting to happen. At 6-2 210 or so, he's going to be destroyed if he tries running like he did in college and he sucks at passing the ball. That's a recipe for failure at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shylo3716 Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Except there's a HUGE difference between possibly getting more top 3 picks as opposed to getting picks that are currently projected to be 17th and 25th... They will not be missing out on anything because they still have Houston’s pick which is in the top-5. I don’t consider this a very weak class, but there’s good value in the first-round to come away with key additions, especially with having 3 picks in the round. They could go RB - QB - DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shylo3716 Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, lod01 said: This is a way better idea. They just had Lamar Jackson v1 last year and saw how bad he sucked. If you can't pass the ball and have to rely on your legs as a QB, you are an injury waiting to happen. At 6-2 210 or so, he's going to be destroyed if he tries running like he did in college and he sucks at passing the ball. That's a recipe for failure at the NFL level. I placed emphasis on Jackson, because according to many Mayfield is a top-10 pick, which wouldn’t be in their range for trading back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 31 minutes ago, Shylo3716 said: They will not be missing out on anything because they still have Houston’s pick which is in the top-5. I don’t consider this a very weak class, but there’s good value in the first-round to come away with key additions, especially with having 3 picks in the round. They could go RB - QB - DB. 1st overall >>>>> (really not enough of these tbh) 17th and 25th picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Anybody can see that Cleveland will be in a win now situation. Their owner has a very short fuse and goes through FO's and HC's practically every 2 years. Both Dorsey, their GM and Hue, their HC, know they only have a very short time to produce, so signing FA's at ridiculous money will likely be a trend(they have to way over pay any FA, in order to get them to come to Cleveland, unfortunately). Their owner will absolutely insist they draft a QB at #1 overall, so the GM is pretty well stuck in that regards. NFL teams win with play makers, impact players produce championships and Cleveland is almost totally void in that regards. Yes, they could trade Houston's pick for a few extra selections, but it will be extremely hard for them to pass on say a Barkley, it would give them 2 potential studs on offense along with still having a few high picks to totally rebuild one of the worst offenses in the history of the NFL. In a matter of 2 years, they could be the Eagles on offense, with a QB quite capable of surpassing Wentz in the pecking order of franchise QB's and perhaps even reaching the playoffs. This will create a far better rebuild than you are suggesting and Dorsey will likely follow this type of plan. He has to be almost 100% sure of his picks or he could be out the door in 2 years. So, trading back will not appeal to him in the least, with his job on the line!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 IMO here is what happens: Darnold and Rosen both come out but neither wants to play for the Browns. The Browns will trade with another top 10 team (Broncos at #7 or the Jets at #8) and select one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson with the Texans #4 pick. If they decide to stay at #1 and Rosen and Darnold don't want to play for them then they could return to school or be forced to pick one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson anyway. IMO it would benefit the 2 QBs and the Browns to trade down if in fact neither kid wants to play for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elusive_Tiger Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, rdelaney89 said: IMO here is what happens: Darnold and Rosen both come out but neither wants to play for the Browns. The Browns will trade with another top 10 team (Broncos at #7 or the Jets at #8) and select one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson with the Texans #4 pick. If they decide to stay at #1 and Rosen and Darnold don't want to play for them then they could return to school or be forced to pick one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson anyway. IMO it would benefit the 2 QBs and the Browns to trade down if in fact neither kid wants to play for them. I think one of the Broncos/Jets will grab Cousins/Smith. Cardinals also in play for move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, rdelaney89 said: IMO here is what happens: Darnold and Rosen both come out but neither wants to play for the Browns. The Browns will trade with another top 10 team (Broncos at #7 or the Jets at #8) and select one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson with the Texans #4 pick. If they decide to stay at #1 and Rosen and Darnold don't want to play for them then they could return to school or be forced to pick one of Allen/Mayfield/Jackson anyway. IMO it would benefit the 2 QBs and the Browns to trade down if in fact neither kid wants to play for them. They can only return to school if they don't sign with an agent IIRC, which I really doubt they'll hold off from doing till after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 They'd better/will get a LOT more than 2 low end 1st round selections for the #1 overall pick. Then again, this is the Browns we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Everyone loves trading down but maybe if they stopped doing that and started drafting high-caliber and not so much quantity guys the Top-2 QB prospects wouldnt be saying they dont want to play there(which is BS if you ask me, earn you paycheck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 They should draft Rosen and then trade him to Giants for #2, The Giants 2019 1st, and Eli Apple. Then they should draft Barkley + Baker Mayfield, or Darnold + Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlong Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 7:56 PM, Shylo3716 said: The Browns officially secured the #1 overall pick. As we all know, free agency comes before the draft, so they now have options that should raise eyebrows, because they may be able to sign a solid vet. Even if they don’t sign a quarterback, would their GM be considered a genius to trade their pick with Buffalo (who needs a quarterback) to take their 2 picks in the first-round and potentially select Lamar Jackson in the 20s? It may seem far fetched, but look at how it has worked out for the Sixers by racking up on picks. Keep in mind that they have nothing to lose because they are not in a win now/playoff run situation. I think after Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel, the Browns are a little sick of taking quarterbacks in the 20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Here's a scenario I toyed with... John Dorsey (who I know was the catalyst in getting Mahomes to KC) makes a big trade for Pat Mahomes, who will be auditioning this week. Andy Reid is an Alex Smith loyalist, Smith has proven to be an elite QB this year, get more firepower and compete for championships the next 3 years. Can always draft another developmental QB with the picks that would come the Chiefs way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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