JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 22 hours ago, jetskid007 said: Here's a scenario I toyed with... John Dorsey (who I know was the catalyst in getting Mahomes to KC) makes a big trade for Pat Mahomes, who will be auditioning this week. Andy Reid is an Alex Smith loyalist, Smith has proven to be an elite QB this year, get more firepower and compete for championships the next 3 years. Can always draft another developmental QB with the picks that would come the Chiefs way... As much of a loyalist as Reid might be, they drafted Mahomes to be their future guy and traded quite a bit to move up iirc. I'd be shocked if they would just trade him back unless they got the #1 pick but then they are sort of right back with what happened last year except with a different QB that has to learn the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 23 hours ago, jetskid007 said: Here's a scenario I toyed with... John Dorsey (who I know was the catalyst in getting Mahomes to KC) makes a big trade for Pat Mahomes, who will be auditioning this week. Andy Reid is an Alex Smith loyalist, Smith has proven to be an elite QB this year, get more firepower and compete for championships the next 3 years. Can always draft another developmental QB with the picks that would come the Chiefs way... Not going to happen. Love the outside the box thinking, but you don't trade up and give up a significant haul and develop him for a year only to flip him a year later. Mahomes will be the starting QB for the Chiefs in 2018 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Quote NFC personnel guy convinced Browns will take Josh Allen at No. 1, leaving Dave Gettleman (with a Giants loss or Colts win Sunday) to pick Rosen, Darnold, or Barkley. Ian O’Connor, FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Don't overthink it. Draft your top QB at one and take Barkley at four. Please don't **** this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Don't overthink it. Draft your top QB at one and take Barkley at four. Please don't **** this up. Came in to say the same thing. Then top DB, then WR in Round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Taking Darnold/Barkley in the first and then signing a good WR would make this a really fun offense to watch. If they took Josh Allen #1 they should be forced to fold the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 13 hours ago, jetskid007 said: Ian O’Connor, FWIW I'm not convinced they have a clue of who they are taking. Not a Browns thing just a process thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 13 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: Don't overthink it. Draft your top QB at one and take Barkley at four. Please don't **** this up. Yea whatever they do they need to go franchise QB and then take someone else on offense. If anything take all offense. Give your QB every chance to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: I'm not convinced they have a clue of who they are taking. Not a Browns thing just a process thing Neither am I, just figured it was a rumor worth posting considering the thread topic. The only reason why things like this are worth monitoring is because John Dorsey wasn't working for an organization this year. I'll have to ask my buddy if John Dorsey was providing any consulting work (Scot McCloughan is a great example of this because he actually had a scouting business before becoming a GM, but some guys just offer scouting reports/advice as an independent contractor). If he was and had high reviews of Josh Allen, it would piece the puzzle together a little more. That said, I don't think it would suggest he'd definitely take Allen #1 overall... you can love a player but still not deem them worthy to take #1 overall. John Dorsey also understands that certain QBs need to be in the right situation where they're permitted to sit and grow (Aaron Rodgers, maybe Pat Mahomes) - and I'm not sure Cleveland allows for that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, jetskid007 said: Neither am I, just figured it was a rumor worth posting considering the thread topic. The only reason why things like this are worth monitoring is because John Dorsey wasn't working for an organization this year. I'll have to ask my buddy if John Dorsey was providing any consulting work (Scot McCloughan is a great example of this because he actually had a scouting business before becoming a GM, but some guys just offer scouting reports/advice as an independent contractor). If he was and had high reviews of Josh Allen, it would piece the puzzle together a little more. That said, I don't think it would suggest he'd definitely take Allen #1 overall... you can love a player but still not deem them worthy to take #1 overall. John Dorsey also understands that certain QBs need to be in the right situation where they're permitted to sit and grow (Aaron Rodgers, maybe Pat Mahomes) - and I'm not sure Cleveland allows for that opportunity. From my understanding he was scouting from his home. He knew he was going to get a GM job when the season ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I recently read a rumor that suggested the Browns were legit interested in Josh Allen at #1. Please, for the love of the holy dickens, do not draft him there. Barkley, Rosen or Darnold IMO should be the top pick (if all 3 come out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, 808 said: I recently read a rumor that suggested the Browns were legit interested in Josh Allen at #1. Please, for the love of the holy dickens, do not draft him there. Barkley, Rosen or Darnold IMO should be the top pick (if all 3 come out). It's not true... there is absolutely 0% chance they take Allen at 1. i read where the broncos have made preliminary calls about #1 for Rosen. We'd probably take Mayfield in that sort of scenario. Also contingent on if Darnold comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renndawg37 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 8:10 PM, lod01 said: This is a way better idea. They just had Lamar Jackson v1 last year and saw how bad he sucked. If you can't pass the ball and have to rely on your legs as a QB, you are an injury waiting to happen. At 6-2 210 or so, he's going to be destroyed if he tries running like he did in college and he sucks at passing the ball. That's a recipe for failure at the NFL level. Serious quesion...how much of Lamar Jackson have you actually watched? He doesn't suck at passing the ball at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 From MMQB... don't shoot the messenger Quote The MMQB's Peter King spoke with one veteran NFL scout who firmly stated there is "no way" Browns GM John Dorsey passes on Wyoming redshirt junior QB Josh Allen at No. 1 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 On 12/29/2017 at 12:27 PM, 808 said: I recently read a rumor that suggested the Browns were legit interested in Josh Allen at #1. Please, for the love of the holy dickens, do not draft him there. Barkley, Rosen or Darnold IMO should be the top pick (if all 3 come out). I'm sure they will definitely draft Josh Allen, a man they have yet to interview or dissect at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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