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7 hours ago, BleedTheClock said:

Doubt it. Darnold is going #1 and I'd bet $ on it.

Reports are the Browns like Allen.  They SHOULD take Darnold, but somehow they'll find a way to screw it up. 

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On 4/13/2018 at 5:57 PM, JLambert58 said:

Reports are the Browns like Allen.  They SHOULD take Darnold, but somehow they'll find a way to screw it up. 

@JLambert58- I know you know you're stuff- I've seen your posts on various forums. I also have heard those Allen-to-Cleveland at rumors. What do you think, though- would the Browns, 1-31 over the last two years, really take a developmental QB like Allen? Seems to me they can't wait too many years to win games, and might be better served by a more finished guy, like Darnold?

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1 hour ago, bzane said:

@JLambert58- I know you know you're stuff- I've seen your posts on various forums. I also have heard those Allen-to-Cleveland at rumors. What do you think, though- would the Browns, 1-31 over the last two years, really take a developmental QB like Allen? Seems to me they can't wait too many years to win games, and might be better served by a more finished guy, like Darnold?

@bzane  I totally agree that Darnold is more NFL ready.  But the thing is, Allen is a big, elusive, strong-armed QB in the mold of Roethlisberger, whom they've been tormented by twice a year for 14 years.  Maybe that plays into it.  Allen also played college ball in a place not known for its hospitable weather.  (Not as big a stretch to go to Cleveland from there as SoCal)  If it were me, I'd already have Darnold's name turned in, but its the Browns after all. :D

Should be interesting to see how it plays out. 

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A week away and my opinion still hasn’t changed. Nelson or Chubb for me. Barkley only if we emphasise the o-line with some of our other high picks.

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I am a little surprised at this board.  The more recent opinions anyway.  Didn't read the whole thing. 

Browns got two 1's, a 2 and two 3's trading to Philly.  

Goal is to draft a starter in first 3 rounds and get impact players in first round and good players in second.

That's conceivably; two impact players, a good player and two starters for trading that pick.  In reality you will probably get 2 good players and others will get hurt, misevaluated or coaches will screw it up.  But having all those picks increases the odds dramatically that you will hit strongly on at least two of them.  

What position player is worth that?  Barkley, Chubb or Nelson?  I would trade any established RB or guard in the league on any team for that deal in a heartbeat.  As talented as Barkley and Nelson are they aren't established proven players at next level, they could still bust.  Plus, the positional value just isn't there to not take that trade.  

You can argue about a pass rushers value and might make a blockbuster deal for an all star pass rusher, but Watt, Miller or Mack is not on the table.  Chubb is on the table and he is no guarantee.  

Now if you get a pro bowl franchise QB that is a small price.  So in hindsight Philly made a good deal.

To me only choice for Giants is a trade (if available) or picking a franchise QB if you believe the QB to be a franchise QB.

If you think the QBs stink and no one wants to trade are only ways you sit and pick a non QB.  Or perhaps if you truly believe you are one impact player from a super bowl.  

If I was a Giants fan I would be hoping for a blockbuster trade or you hit the QB lottery, no way I would be wanting them to make the pick for Chubb, Barkley or Nelson.

 

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, minutemancl said:

If Darnold is there, take him. If not, take Barkley. Don't think it has to be more difficult than that. 

It will be if the Bills offer their (2) 2018 1st's, 2019 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder ;)

I'd question your GM if he'd take Barkley (a runningback) over (3) 1st round picks and say Guice from LSU.

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