Dodo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 There are ways this could backfire massively but the one angle I don't understand is "he's been out too long". He's only 54. He's been announcing 10 years, sure, but how many announcers have been on team's wishlists year in and out? What exactly do people think he's been doing the last 10 years if he already has his staff in place? Gruden will obviously succeed or fail on the merits of his work, but I see no reason to believe that a guy as dedicated to the game as he is hasn't been updating his cookbooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, cddolphin said: Players contracts are also not fully guaranteed. Coach contracts are. Players also don't get 10 year deals, longest I remember off the top of my head is a 6 year extension given to Gronkowski. Tyron Smith signed an 8 year 112mil year deal in 2014 iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 One thing for certain is there will be no excuses for Carr if he doesn't pick it up over the next couple seasons. Gruden, Olsen and potentially Gannon. There's a lot of help available to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, .Buzz said: No offense, but I don't want Olsen near a QB with a 10 foot pole after the stories came out about what he said/did to Blake. Yet Carr and Goff love him. We'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Dodo said: There are ways this could backfire massively but the one angle I don't understand is "he's been out too long". He's only 54. He's been announcing 10 years, sure, but how many announcers have been on team's wishlists year in and out? What exactly do people think he's been doing the last 10 years if he already has his staff in place? Gruden will obviously succeed or fail on the merits of his work, but I see no reason to believe that a guy as dedicated to the game as he is hasn't been updating his cookbooks I wish I could find the article about Gruden, how he has been dissecting college and NFL offenses intensely over the past decade and working as if he still was a HC and needed a gameplan that week. He is obsessed with football. He even has a playbook from his Tampa Bay days that he has been adding to and altering over the years. Not to mentioned he runs QB camps. I am not worried whatsoever about him being "out of it too long". Hell I bet he has put in more hours breaking down film than any other coach over the past decade haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: Yet Carr and Goff love him. We'll see what happens. Blake loved Olsen too. He had nothing but good things to say about him when he left. Even in that article I posted there was zero shade at Olsen from Blake. Doesn't change the fact that his stubbornness and forcing Blake to stay in Jacksonville and not work on his mechanics and work all offseason with no one watching him when he clearly had trouble with mechanics is alarming and questionable at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 No one can ever call Mark Davis cheap again. Lloyd Christmas? Sure. But not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I’m happy to see Gruden back, but this better result in lost draft picks over the obvious Rooney rule violation. Even if they interviewed someone it was a complete sham of a interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: I’m happy to see Gruden back, but this better result in lost draft picks over the obvious Rooney rule violation. Even if they interviewed someone it was a complete sham of a interview Who cares? That rule is the biggest slap in the face that exists in modern sports. They have a black GM for goodness sake. Also, to the bolded, that would have to be proven (it would never be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: I’m happy to see Gruden back, but this better result in lost draft picks over the obvious Rooney rule violation. Even if they interviewed someone it was a complete sham of a interview We satisfied the Rooney rule the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchup Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, cddolphin said: Who cares? That rule is the biggest slap in the face that exists in modern sports. They have a black GM for goodness sake. Also, to the bolded, that would have to be proven (it would never be). Thank you! The Rooney rule, while put into place with the best of intentions I’m sure, is just not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 So is gruden bringing back the WCO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: We satisfied the Rooney rule the other day. 3 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: We satisfied the Rooney rule the other day. We knew a week ago Gruden was getting the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Damn, I just realized we are definitely going to be on Hard Knocks in the next few years. Gruden + Las Vegas would make for a crazy show. I’ve never had interest in hard knocks but I would defiantly watch gruden in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: I’m happy to see Gruden back, but this better result in lost draft picks over the obvious Rooney rule violation. Even if they interviewed someone it was a complete sham of a interview #1. Wouldn't be the first time a team already had someone penciled in and abided by the rule. Whether it's a sham rule these days is up for debate but they abided by it. #2. The Raiders aren't a good team to cite as someone who'd purposely try to avoid the rule. First black coach, first latino coach, first female CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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