fretgod99 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, iknowcool said: That is how I view Turner. He's not going to be able to adjust his scheme to make players fit, but if he's got the right guys, it will be successful. He's proven that. This in particular is why I wouldn’t want him. I think the hallmark of a good coach is adapting scheme to fit players. It’s easy to call plays and be successful when you have the players to do precisely what you want. But, there will always be injuries, free agents and draft picks don’t pan out, etc. If you can’t adjust to fit your players, you’re going to have problems or you’ll dump good talent simply because they’re not a perfect fit. We got Olsen for a steal for exactly that reason. That is undoubtedly the greatest trade in Panthers history and has to be one of the most ridiculously one-sided deals in NFL history, too. I would trade a 3rd away every year from here to eternity if we got Olsens out of it every time. Hell, I’d probably trade firsts if they all turned out as well as this one did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drics13 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, fretgod99 said: This in particular is why I wouldn’t want him. I think the hallmark of a good coach is adapting scheme to fit players. It’s easy to call plays and be successful when you have the players to do precisely what you want. But, there will always be injuries, free agents and draft picks don’t pan out, etc. If you can’t adjust to fit your players, you’re going to have problems or you’ll dump good talent simply because they’re not a perfect fit. We got Olsen for a steal for exactly that reason. That is undoubtedly the greatest trade in Panthers history and has to be one of the most ridiculously one-sided deals in NFL history, too. I would trade a 3rd away every year from here to eternity if we got Olsens out of it every time. Hell, I’d probably trade firsts if they all turned out as well as this one did. Big time. We gave away Benjamin for the same and the Bills are definitely on the wrong side of that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You guys think there is a decent shot Wilks stays? He apparently didn't make the cut for a 2nd interview with the Giants. The Lions seem to be in on Matt Patricia. Colts seem to want an offensive guy, and could be waiting for Josh McDaniels. Last HC position as of right now is the Cardinals, who have interviewed Wilks, but also have Pat Shurmu, Swartz of the Eagles, Munchuck and a few other names floating around. With all this turmoil of the Panthers offseason, not having to replace the DC would be a huge win for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 I think I would rather lose Wilks, honestly... Really preferred McDermott's defense. More zone led to more consistent turnovers. Wilks put too much trust in his DBs which is a mistake. We coulda promoted Eric Washington or brought in Jack Del Rio to go back to basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Also, I hope Norv has learned to adapt a little. He would have been a great offensive mind ten or fifteen years ago. He's never had someone with a skillset like Cam. Olsen also isn't particularly similar to Gates. We don't have fast wideouts like VJax or Gordon or Floyd. Perhaps CMC can become Sproles-esque (but with more running). Armah as the new Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretgod99 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Dingo18287 said: You guys think there is a decent shot Wilks stays? He apparently didn't make the cut for a 2nd interview with the Giants. The Lions seem to be in on Matt Patricia. Colts seem to want an offensive guy, and could be waiting for Josh McDaniels. Last HC position as of right now is the Cardinals, who have interviewed Wilks, but also have Pat Shurmu, Swartz of the Eagles, Munchuck and a few other names floating around. With all this turmoil of the Panthers offseason, not having to replace the DC would be a huge win for us. Avoiding turnover is good, but we don’t currently have the DBs to run as much man as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Glad to see the Saints get eliminated. Especially in that fashion. Lord. That was incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Special Teams Coordinator Thomas McGaughey was fired, and Chase Blackburn was promoted to STC. A little surprised, because it felt like the Special Teams were pretty good this year. Gano lead the league in FG%, Palady seemed pretty good at punting, and we got a couple of touchdowns on returns. I also don't recall giving up a special teams TD either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Special Teams Coordinator Thomas McGaughey was fired, and Chase Blackburn was promoted to STC. A little surprised, because it felt like the Special Teams were pretty good this year. Gano lead the league in FG%, Palady seemed pretty good at punting, and we got a couple of touchdowns on returns. I also don't recall giving up a special teams TD either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 He wasn't fired. His contract was up. He was mostly just hired because we had no other options at STC last year. Probably didn't get along all that well with Rivera. He'll probably latch on with a new HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Steve Wilks is heading to Arizona to become their HC. Cards forum reporting that Al Holcomb is going to be his DC too, although I haven't seen that any where yet. DL coach Eric Washington is being promoted to DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yeah, Cardinals poaching LB coach Al Holcomb to be DC. And OL coach Ray Brown to have the same position. I imagine Sammy Mills becomes the new DL coach. John Matsko could be "demoted" from Run Game Coordinator to OL coach, though I'm not sure there was a big difference between the two. No clue who could become LB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Former Michigan HC Brady Hoke has been named DL Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringinDaPain Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Dingo18287 said: Former Michigan HC Brady Hoke has been named DL Coach. Thought for sure Mill III would end up being our DL Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zithers2 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Our LB coach is the former DC for Air Force. Forgot his name. Too lazy to look up. We also interviewed Lake Dawson a second time. Hopefully we hire him. Done with Hurney. Was done with him several years ago, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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