deltarich87 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, TENINCH said: We're one of the better run organizations in football. Only thing missing is the Super Bowl trophy. Top 5 head coach Top 3 Stadium New HQs are being built right now Lots of players being elected to the HOF Couldn't ask for much more. A franchise QB, for one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Mental gymnastics...jeezus. It doesn't take much intelligent thought to figure out what he's saying. I won't go any further than that. Not worth my time. Packer fans, of the 3 or so discussed replacements for TT, who is your clear cut favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Forge said: What does HOF have to do with how an organization is run? It's just a good time to be a Vikings fan is all I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, TENINCH said: It's just a good time to be a Vikings fan is all I was getting at. Ahh, okay. I don't dispute that at all. I really like what you guys have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SteelKing728 said: Mental gymnastics...jeezus. It doesn't take much intelligent thought to figure out what he's saying. Of course not. It is obvious what he is getting at. Thepoint is that it requires mental gymnastics to reach the conclusion he did: that winning SBs is a disappointment compared to not winning them based only on the desire to have won more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, TENINCH said: We're one of the better run organizations in football. Only thing missing is the Super Bowl trophy. Top 5 head coach Top 3 Stadium New HQs are being built right now Lots of players being elected to the HOF Couldn't ask for much more. Your little mission statement there contradicts itself.. well run organizations are measured by post season success. In Minnesota, there is none. Congratulations on your top 3 stadium though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, packerrfan74 said: Your little mission statement there contradicts itself.. well run organizations are measured by post season success. In Minnesota, there is none. Congratulations on your top 3 stadium though Thanks. It's a gorgeous stadium!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, TENINCH said: Thanks. It's a gorgeous stadium!! Can’t disagree there. It looks glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Anyway - to get back on topic. I don’t think TT has a Hall of Fame caliber résumé as a GM. But it’s also silly to suggest he isn’t one of the better ones in the league over the last few years. People can point to Rodgers as carrying him, but that’s really ridiculous. They made the playoffs something like 8 straight years prior to this one, several of them with Rodgers missing time. That’s impressive. And to suggest that isn’t a product of a quality built roster is just plain silly. I mean Drew Brees has been healthy forever and he’s missed the playoffs a lot. There really isn’t much that separates the two insofar as talent is concerned, particularly when you see how many more games Brees has played and had in impact in over that time. The difference is the quality of roster put around the two. And Ted has done it while partially being hamstrung by an organization that doesn’t spend on Free Agents very often. He’s not some infallible GM who has never made a mistake, and there’s certainly blemishes on his record, but he’s been a high quality GM for a number of years. There’s certainly some that have been better than him, both over long term and short term goals. But that number isn’t anywhere near as large as some non-Packer fans want to pretend it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, iPwn said: Anyway - to get back on topic. I don’t think TT has a Hall of Fame caliber résumé as a GM. But it’s also silly to suggest he isn’t one of the better ones in the league over the last few years. People can point to Rodgers as carrying him, but that’s really ridiculous. They made the playoffs something like 8 straight years prior to this one, several of them with Rodgers missing time. That’s impressive. And to suggest that isn’t a product of a quality built roster is just plain silly. I mean Drew Brees has been healthy forever and he’s missed the playoffs a lot. There really isn’t much that separates the two insofar as talent is concerned, particularly when you see how many more games Brees has played and had in impact in over that time. The difference is the quality of roster put around the two. And Ted has done it while partially being hamstrung by an organization that doesn’t spend on Free Agents very often. He’s not some infallible GM who has never made a mistake, and there’s certainly blemishes on his record, but he’s been a high quality GM for a number of years. There’s certainly some that have been better than him, both over long term and short term goals. But that number isn’t anywhere near as large as some non-Packer fans want to pretend it is. This. He's done a marvelous job of sustaining success. It's ridiculously difficult to construct roster after roster than wins for a decade straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Rodgers should send a thank you rolex to Barr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 hours ago, marky mark said: Code for .... I have no responsibilities .... and I will officially leave the organization at the quietest time in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, disaacs said: No, you can't win it every year, but to have 2 HOF QBs in 25 years and only have 2 SBs to show for it, that's practically embarrassing. Winning multiple superbowls is embarrassing? I get the point but it's not for a lack of trying.... Not every team can enter cheat codes like the patriots to win superbowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 This is really bad timing on the part of those criticizing TT. In just the last 10 months alone he's now addressed 4 major holes. He fires Capers which addresses the defense. Maintains stability by keeping McCarthy. Finally gets Rodgers a very solid two-headed monster in the backfield via last years draft(barring injury, Jones is gonna tear it up) and extends Adams which guarantees Rodgers atleast 1 reliable target heading into next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, JustAnotherFan said: This is really bad timing on the part of those criticizing TT. In just the last 10 months alone he's now addressed 4 major holes. He fires Capers which addresses the defense. Maintains stability by keeping McCarthy. Finally gets Rodgers a very solid two-headed monster in the backfield via last years draft(barring injury, Jones is gonna tear it up) and extends Adams which guarantees Rodgers atleast 1 reliable target heading into next year. A TON of assumptions being made here. First off, you're assuming that TT was the one who made that call. Based on Mike McCarthy's the last few weeks, he clearly wasn't happy with the play of the defense and I'd venture a guess to say that he was far more likely to be the one leading the change. Not TT. And it's been speculated since last offseason that there was already change underway, even if it wasn't official. Both Gut and Wolf pulled their name from GM consideration last year, and they were as active in FA as they have under TT's watch. That could easily have been Wolf/Gut/Ball pulling the strings with TT giving the "official" sign off. Finally, the Adams and Linsley' extensions happen with or without TT in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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