Random Packer News & Notes

[Norm]

TEBOW to jags. Sorry guys. I'm a Jags fan now. It's been real

[Mr Bad Example]

14 hours ago, vegas492 said:

Christ, who amongst us hasn't done that in the past year?

It's a fairly comprehensive description of my time in college. 

[Leader]

Bill Huber / SI  -  From 2005 through 2020, the 16 drafts conducted by Ted Thompson and his protégé, Brian Gutekunst, Randall Cobb was the shortest receiver selected by the Green Bay Packers.

At the 2011 Scouting Combine, Cobb measured 5-foot-10 1/4. He was almost a full inch shorter than any other receiver selected by the Packers over that span. In what was the clearest and most obvious draft trend imaginable, the Packers simply had no interest in short receivers, no matter how fast, productive or talented.

Gutekunst changed that trend in a not-small way in last week’s NFL Draft. Not only did he select Clemson’s Amari Rodgers, who measured 5-foot-9 1/2 at Clemson’s pro day, but he traded up to do so.

[R T]

2 minutes ago, Leader said:

Bill Huber / SI  -  From 2005 through 2020, the 16 drafts conducted by Ted Thompson and his protégé, Brian Gutekunst, Randall Cobb was the shortest receiver selected by the Green Bay Packers.

At the 2011 Scouting Combine, Cobb measured 5-foot-10 1/4. He was almost a full inch shorter than any other receiver selected by the Packers over that span. In what was the clearest and most obvious draft trend imaginable, the Packers simply had no interest in short receivers, no matter how fast, productive or talented.

Gutekunst changed that trend in a not-small way in last week’s NFL Draft. Not only did he select Clemson’s Amari Rodgers, who measured 5-foot-9 1/2 at Clemson’s pro day, but he traded up to do so.

This is funny in a way. Everyone will be throwing out the past measurables profile of WR's and the Packers will keep drafting bigger WR's in the future. Is it possible that they don't really view him as a true WR, Gutes has repeatedly called him a slotback in some of his post draft interviews. Maybe they scouted him based on RB measurables, I think there is a fair likelihood of that being the case. 

[vegas492]

There will be room on this roster for the "right", "small" WR.  Since we traded up, this is our guy.  Excited about him!

[Refugee]

LaFleur has made the analogy of putting together a basketball team when trying to assemble a WR corps.  In general, we favor big body strong hands guys and those "possession" guys tend to be easier and cheaper to find if they are a bit slower.  But he definitely wants his burner and shifty slot weapon.  No matter what, all of them need to be gritty enough to block in this offense.

[R T]

 

 

 

Peter Bukowski

 

@Peter_Bukowski

 

 

Just for fun

Aaron Jones 5'9 208 4.56 40 1007 broad 16 bench

Amari Rodgers 5'9 212 4.57 40 1001 broad 19 bench

 

Just to really drive this point home, one of Amari Rodgers' closest Mockdraftable comps is Kylin Hill, a RB the #Packers drafted in the 7th round. Rodgers makes plays with the ball in his hands like a RB but runs routes like a WR. He's made for this offense.

 

 

[Refugee]

16 hours ago, Norm said:

TEBOW to jags. Sorry guys. I'm a Jags fan now. It's been real

A guy who can walk on water at QB and a TE who has risen from the tomb, what's not to love?  They will definitely be the SEC fans' chosen NFL team.  

[Mr Bad Example]

1 hour ago, vegas492 said:

There will be room on this roster for the "right", "small" WR.  Since we traded up, this is our guy.  Excited about him!

This is where I fall back to John Madden's description of Joe Morris back in the day - "Joe Morris is a big guy, he's just short." 

Same with Rodgers - he's a freakin' tank (for a WR), he's just not that tall

[Leader]

14 minutes ago, Refugee said:

A guy who can walk on water at QB and a TE who has risen from the tomb, what's not to love?  They will definitely be the SEC fans' chosen NFL team.  

Thats the connection: UofF and North Florida. I've no clue how he'll far as a TE (might have waited a bit too long tinkering around with baseball......) but If he can make the roster, he'll sell tickets.

[ThatJerkDave]

1 hour ago, Refugee said:

LaFleur has made the analogy of putting together a basketball team when trying to assemble a WR corps.  In general, we favor big body strong hands guys and those "possession" guys tend to be easier and cheaper to find if they are a bit slower.  But he definitely wants his burner and shifty slot weapon.  No matter what, all of them need to be gritty enough to block in this offense.

What position would you call Ervin? He was listed as a RB.  But if you watched the game, didn't he mostly line up in a "WR" spot?

Of the guys that have played a lot for the Packers in recent years, Adams is the "smallest" at 6'1.  But he is pretty thick for a WR at 215.

[AlexGreen#20]

2 hours ago, Leader said:

Bill Huber / SI  -  From 2005 through 2020, the 16 drafts conducted by Ted Thompson and his protégé, Brian Gutekunst, Randall Cobb was the shortest receiver selected by the Green Bay Packers.

At the 2011 Scouting Combine, Cobb measured 5-foot-10 1/4. He was almost a full inch shorter than any other receiver selected by the Packers over that span. In what was the clearest and most obvious draft trend imaginable, the Packers simply had no interest in short receivers, no matter how fast, productive or talented.

Gutekunst changed that trend in a not-small way in last week’s NFL Draft. Not only did he select Clemson’s Amari Rodgers, who measured 5-foot-9 1/2 at Clemson’s pro day, but he traded up to do so.

Who could imagine that different offenses might look for different body types at position. Crazy. 

[Refugee]

28 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

What position would you call Ervin? He was listed as a RB.  But if you watched the game, didn't he mostly line up in a "WR" spot?

Of the guys that have played a lot for the Packers in recent years, Adams is the "smallest" at 6'1.  But he is pretty thick for a WR at 215.

I refer to Ervin's position as the "Swerve" position in this offense.  Even if he's no longer on the team, there's room for that quick acceleration, motion stuff whether a WR/RB is running it.  Amari will get some opportunities there.

Similarly, I refer to any large chess piece coming out of the back field, like Dafney, as the "Fatback" position in honor of longest of longshots Alstevis "Fatback" Squirewell of a few years past.

Edited May 11, 2021 by Refugee

[Lodestar]

Between Amari, Deguara, and the continued evolution of the Jones/Dillon 2RB sets, we could see some new wrinkles next year.

... and that's to say nothing of what happens if Love starts. 😐

[Leader]

Ian Rapoport -   There’s been discussion about the benefits of drafting a WR in the first round. How much does it help? A look at the past 10 years of drafting WRs in rounds 1-3 shows teams are more likely to have a Pro Bowl WR from a second-rounder vs a first-rounder.

• Bucky Brooks  -   This has been a point that’s been discussed on the MTS podcasts on multiple occasions. Like RBs, blue-chip WRs can be found outside of the 1st round. The 2nd/3rd rounds are the sweet spots for pass catchers. The Packers have subscribed to this theory for years. They’re not wrong