Leader Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Joe said: Saw the Iowa-Iowa St. game Saturday. ISU's QB basically played the same way: held onto the ball too long, wouldn't throw the incomplete pass instead of taking a sack. I cant say I've watched a lot of Kizer games - but I think he's got the tools to get the job done. He has an NFL arm IMO. I think MM needs to be more strategic with game planning with Kizer. Quick hitters. Timing routes. He's not AR. He cant improvise like AR. Use the tools and "train the brain" to get rid of the ball quickly. I think he can succeed that way. It's early in his career - he's a kid still - and if necessary to play him (not good.....) thats a road map to gaining confidence and experience he can build on. Edited September 14, 2018 by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWhitehurst Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2018/9/11/17847530/how-aaron-rodgers-injury-beat-the-bears-rodgers-khalil-mack-akiem-hicks-mike-mccarthy Quote: "Mike McCarthy is not a tactical play-caller. He relies on the receivers to beat their defenders one-on-one, and" for Aaron to find the players who do. It’s antiquated, ineffective except for Rodgers’ brilliance, and hopefully will change with Joe Philbin back in the organization. Rodgers loves to hold the ball waiting for the big play, and his offensive line has been accommodating for the most part." IMO, this is an insightful article, especially in discussing the Patriots successful dink and dunk offense with accurate, quick release Brady and how that compares with MM and Rodgers (prior to the 2nd half of the Bears game). We have the players in Adams, Cobb, Graham, and Montgomery to replicate this Patriots style, provided that now with a hobbled Rodgers he is forced to give up hero ball, stay in the pocket, not audible out of so many plays, and he sticks with this likely gameplan of getting the ball out quickly. While this will minimize the impact of the opposing defense's attempted pressure/disruption from the edge, nevertheless, given for example MN's strong and disruptive interior DLine, this means that a big key is that the Packer's interior OLine must be stout, get blocking help (e.g., RB Williams), protect Rodgers at all cost. That's iffy, as RG McCray is a bit of a weak link. But we will see this Sunday how it shakes out. Edited September 15, 2018 by DWhitehurst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 hours ago, DWhitehurst said: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2018/9/11/17847530/how-aaron-rodgers-injury-beat-the-bears-rodgers-khalil-mack-akiem-hicks-mike-mccarthy Quote: "Mike McCarthy is not a tactical play-caller. He relies on the receivers to beat their defenders one-on-one, and" for Aaron to find the players who do. It’s antiquated, ineffective except for Rodgers’ brilliance, and hopefully will change with Joe Philbin back in the organization. Rodgers loves to hold the ball waiting for the big play, and his offensive line has been accommodating for the most part." IMO, this is an insightful article, especially in discussing the Patriots successful dink and dunk offense with accurate, quick release Brady and how that compares with MM and Rodgers (prior to the 2nd half of the Bears game). We have the players in Adams, Cobb, Graham, and Montgomery to replicate this Patriots style, provided that now with a hobbled Rodgers he is forced to give up hero ball, stay in the pocket, not audible out of so many plays, and he sticks with this likely gameplan of getting the ball out quickly. While this will minimize the impact of the opposing defense's attempted pressure/disruption from the edge, nevertheless, given for example MN's strong and disruptive interior DLine, this means that a big key is that the Packer's interior OLine must be stout, get blocking help (e.g., RB Williams), protect Rodgers at all cost. That's iffy, as RG McCray is a bit of a weak link. But we will see this Sunday how it shakes out. That is a good article, thanks for the link. I will add that when you use the short passing game, it eventually opens up opportunities to throw deep anyway, because it wears out the pass rushers. It seems like the Patriots have been using the short passing game more in the past few years. At other times, especially when they had Randy Moss, they threw the ball downfield a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) NFL Trivia Pursuit :: Allison / Nelson tracking Week 1Allison - 8 targets / 5 receptions / 69 ttl yds / 39 long / 13.8 avg / 1 +20 / 1 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 3 receptions / 23 ttl yds / 17 long / 7.7 avg / 0 +20 / 0 TD Week 2Allison - 6 targets / 6 receptions / 64 ttl yds / 22 long / 10.7 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 2 receptions / 30 ttl yds / 23 long / 15.0 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD Edited September 16, 2018 by Leader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Leader said: NFL Trivia Pursuit :: Allison / Nelson tracking Week 1Allison - 8 targets / 5 receptions / 69 ttl yds / 39 long / 13.8 avg / 1 +20 / 1 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 3 receptions / 23 ttl yds / 17 long / 7.7 avg / 0 +20 / 0 TD Week 2Allison - 6 targets / 6 receptions / 64 ttl yds / 22 long / 10.7 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 2 receptions / 30 ttl yds / 23 long / 15.0 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD Dez Bryant/Josh Gordon who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Leader said: NFL Trivia Pursuit :: Allison / Nelson tracking Week 1Allison - 8 targets / 5 receptions / 69 ttl yds / 39 long / 13.8 avg / 1 +20 / 1 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 3 receptions / 23 ttl yds / 17 long / 7.7 avg / 0 +20 / 0 TD Week 2Allison - 6 targets / 6 receptions / 64 ttl yds / 22 long / 10.7 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD Nelson - 4 targets / 2 receptions / 30 ttl yds / 23 long / 15.0 avg / 1 +20 / 0 TD You forgot a blocked punt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: You forgot a blocked punt! I think Gute got it right ... Nelson is cooked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Vontae Davis retired at halftime today. Wow way to quit on your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, eyecatcher said: Vontae Davis retired at halftime today. Wow way to quit on your team. Is this for real? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Is this for real? ? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Is this for real? ? From NFL News & Notes: This is a new one...... "Vontae Davis, a two-time Pro Bowler who had been playing his first season in Buffalo after nine years with Miami and Indianapolis, retired halfway through Sunday’s 31-20 loss to the Chargers, according to his team The Bills were down 28-6 after the first 30 minutes, a week after getting destroyed, 47-3, by the Ravens. Coach Sean McDermott: “He pulled himself out of the game. He told us he was done.” Davis changed into street clothes at the break, said he was done and left the stadium" I guess he figured: "I'm not dying young for this train wreck" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I get being pissed with a disastrous game and a half but pulling himself from the game and declaring he’s done...wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Must see TV possibly the best post game presser ever. https://www.buccaneers.com/video/ryan-fitzpatrick-postgame-press-conference-bucs-vs-eagles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WaitWhat said: I get being pissed with a disastrous game and a half but pulling himself from the game and declaring he’s done...wow. Hey - money's probably in the bank - the Bills are gonna be a **** show all year - so outside demanding a trade - just take your ball and go home. Not too classy - but makes sense in a way. Look at it this way - teams cut players at a drop of the hat and nobody blinks an eye. This time a player punched his own ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, eyecatcher said: Must see TV possibly the best post game presser ever. https://www.buccaneers.com/video/ryan-fitzpatrick-postgame-press-conference-bucs-vs-eagles Who? Fitz the pimp? He's definitely feelin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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