vegas492 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: Jeff Janis and MVS don't count but Trevor davis does? Not sure it will eve translate to the field, but EQ timed comparable to Jennings. ESB reminds me of Jennings in that both are just so very smooth. Obvious difference is their frame/body, but both seem effortless as athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Lol, I hope this Davante Adams/ocho Cinco materializes into some kind of televised bet. Ocho thinks he can shut him down 9/10 times off the line. Kiss the baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: Lol, I hope this Davante Adams/ocho Cinco materializes into some kind of televised bet. Ocho thinks he can shut him down 9/10 times off the line. Kiss the baby Guessing that one out of ten times, Adams jukes him so hard on the line that Oco loses a shoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Jeff Janis and MVS don't count but Trevor davis does? Not sure it will eve translate to the field, but EQ timed comparable to Jennings. Whoops MVS is probably the fastest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Lol, I hope this Davante Adams/ocho Cinco materializes into some kind of televised bet. Ocho thinks he can shut him down 9/10 times off the line. Kiss the baby Isn't he just teasing? I think he loves Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, deathstar said: Whoops MVS is probably the fastest. Is MVS faster than Davis? MVS is obviously a better WR. I just don't think he is faster. I would love if they had a 100 yard race at family night. There is enough room for 8 or 10 guys to line up across the field and race. I would really have liked to see a race between Sam Shields, Nick Collins, and Ryan Grant. [edit] It appears that MVS had a faster 40 time than Davis. It was 4.37 to 4.42, so not a huge difference. I thought Davis ran faster than that though. I thought wrong. Edited February 16, 2019 by ThatJerkDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: It appears that MVS had a faster 40 time than Davis. It was 4.37 to 4.42, so not a huge difference. I thought Davis ran faster than that though. I thought wrong. I thought the same thing. They're both fast, but MVS is the fastest WR we've had since... Javon Walker, maybe? Also, .05 doesn't seem like much, but it's actually slightly greater than the difference between Trevor Davis and Greg Jennings/Randall Cobb, who both ran 4.46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Lodestar said: I thought the same thing. They're both fast, but MVS is the fastest WR we've had since... Javon Walker, maybe? Also, .05 doesn't seem like much, but it's actually slightly greater than the difference between Trevor Davis and Greg Jennings/Randall Cobb, who both ran 4.46. http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1930&draftyear=2002&genpos=WR This had Walker at 4.35. I guess Javon was good enough at running routes, high pointing the ball, and making contested catches that I didn't really think of him as a speed guy. I know Jordy didn't time well, but he had that stride like Ryan Grant. I would say that Jordy easily beats Jennings and Cobb in the 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MacReady Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Two things: One, lol at Fackrell being better than Floyd this year. Two, Bears fans seemed to lol at the idea of losing Lynch being remotely significant. Just reconfirms that the Bears defense is NOT going to be the same at all next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Two things: One, lol at Fackrell being better than Floyd this year. Two, Bears fans seemed to lol at the idea of losing Lynch being remotely significant. Just reconfirms that the Bears defense is NOT going to be the same at all next year. I don't think losing an average defender is that big of a deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, JBURGE said: I don't think losing an average defender is that big of a deal. That "average defender" was the third best pass rusher in the division. On top of them losing their starting safety, slot corner and defensive coordinator with zero money to replace him. Imagine what our defense looks like heading into this upcoming season if we were to lose Tramon Williams, Beshaud Breeland, Kyler Fackrell, Mike Pettine and have zero money and only a 3rd round pick to replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, JBURGE said: I don't think losing an average defender is that big of a deal. Only 3 things will lead to the Bears defense taking a step back: 1. If Pagano isnt nearly as good as Fangio; 2. If they lose both Callahan and Amos and dont replace either one with a comparable FA; 3. A few key injuries. Even if 1 and 2 happen, their D will still most likely be a top 10 unit simply due to the amount of talent they have there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: That "average defender" was the third best pass rusher in the division. On top of them losing their starting safety, slot corner and defensive coordinator with zero money to replace him. Imagine what our defense looks like heading into this upcoming season if we were to lose Tramon Williams, Beshaud Breeland, Kyler Fackrell, Mike Pettine and have zero money and only a 3rd round pick to replace them. Yea but the problem is they still have Mack, Hicks, Smith, Jackson and Fuller, five players who would be the best at their position on our team. So you're talking apples and oranges comparing their defense to ours. They have a TON of talent on defense. I think they take a step back but we're still talking a top 10 defense absent some major injuries. Edited February 17, 2019 by packfanfb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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