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11 hours ago, Blink said:

I’ve been reading up on Lafluer a bit, but was wondering if anyone could inform me as to how much he does or does not utilize the FB.

This guy is evaluating every Titans game and writing an article on both the pass and run game for each. 

http://www.packtothefuture.com/articles/xs-and-os-lafleurs-week-3-run-calls/

He uses the full back a lot and puts him in motion before the snap a lot.

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10 hours ago, deathstar said:

This guy is evaluating every Titans game and writing an article on both the pass and run game for each. 

http://www.packtothefuture.com/articles/xs-and-os-lafleurs-week-3-run-calls/

He uses the full back a lot and puts him in motion before the snap a lot.

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.  For some reason I’ve always loved the position and was hoping we would use it more going forward 

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14 minutes ago, Blink said:

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.  For some reason I’ve always loved the position and was hoping we would use it more going forward 

We brought this guy in for a visit - Andrew Beck, TE, Texas - who I think is a good candidate to transition to fullback with us. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/j896ndPyMC1NbGzg9

 

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4 minutes ago, deathstar said:

We brought this guy in for a visit - Andrew Beck, TE, Texas - who I think is a good candidate to transition to fullback with us.

The Draft Network analysis:

Routes - Tasked with a simple route tree. Heavy-footed in his release and lacks excitable separation quickness. A complete afterthought in the passing game. He stayed in and blocked quite a bit but he also wasn’t truly considered in progressions. Safety valve/sit in space/check down guy.

Hands - Hasn’t been tasked with difficult catches in contested situations. Minimal catch radius and extension skills. Will handle simple pitch and catches, while hanging on through contact. Baseline ability is present.

Ball Skills - Expecting dynamic plays on the ball shouldn’t be the case. Targeted in ways that don’t ask him to adjust and attack the football. Gauging his tracking skills is challenging given his role and limited sample size but he doesn’t project as a deep or immediate target which requires top ball skills.

YAC Ability - Lacks the dynamic movement skills to be a factor after the catch. With that said, he cleanly tucks and turns looking to compete for more yards. He’s decisive and physical while not going down with a fight.

Play Speed - Lacking. A team isn’t investing in Beck for his athletic ability or speed. Defenses don’t have to respect vertical push in his route stems. Doesn’t have the juice to create and make big plays post-catch.

Play Strength - Illustrates good contact balance and power when blocking. Thickly built frame designed to hold up in the trenches. Plays with good leverage to maximize his power. Firm at the top of routes to break through contact and when challenging tacklers as a ball carrier.

In-line Blocking - Executes like a sixth offensive linemen. Does well to play with leverage and explode through his hips to generate movement. Focused on fitting his hands and keeping his feet active through contact. Capable pass blocker. His ability to win in the trenches as a blocker is his greatest asset.

Space Blocking - Is adequate but can be more effective collapsing and staying square. Limited lateral mobility enables defenders to work around him. Has positive reps lead blocking and pulling across the formation.

Versatility - Overall receiving upside is pedestrian. His value comes as a blocker where he does illustrate desirable versatility, especially in-line where is effective pass and run blocking. Consistency is needed as a vertical blocker, however.

BEST TRAIT - In-Line Blocking

WORST TRAIT - Receiving Upside

RED FLAGS - Missed 2017 with broken foot

The NFL has a place for blocking specialists at tight end which bodes well for Beck because he offers very little appeal outside of his ability to win as an in-line blocker. As a receiver, Beck lacks the separation quickness and length to truly make an impact outside of check downs. While Beck does have appeal as a blocker, he isn’t that dynamic where he projects as a draftable commodity in my view. Beck’s ceiling at the next level is a TE2/3, that functions as a utility blocker.

Round Grade - UDFA

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1 hour ago, deathstar said:

We brought this guy in for a visit - Andrew Beck, TE, Texas - who I think is a good candidate to transition to fullback with us. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/j896ndPyMC1NbGzg9

 

I'm honestly not sure why he would convert to fullback (not saying he can't line up there occasionally). 

Beck has an underrated athletic profile for a TE and he made more than a handful of plays downfield at the E/W Shrine game. 

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17 minutes ago, Cadmus said:

I'm honestly not sure why he would convert to fullback (not saying he can't line up there occasionally). 

Beck has an underrated athletic profile for a TE and he made more than a handful of plays downfield at the E/W Shrine game. 

I’m going off of how Texas liked to line him up not in line with the tackle but set back a couple of yards. For running plays it almost looked like a weird wide-set fullback. This is similar to how LaFleur likes to utilize his full backs - who start off in a traditional position but then go in motion before the snap to around the same location. Also given his receiving experience as more of a dump off option at Texas is similar to how a fullback would be used. I’m also a big fan of the way he coils into blocks when he gets some steps in beforehand.

Its not something that I’ve seen floated or suggested, but just what I thought of when I watched him after reading we brought him in.

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3 minutes ago, deathstar said:

I’m going off of how Texas liked to line him up not in line with the tackle but set back a couple of yards. For running plays it almost looked like a weird wide-set fullback. This is similar to how LaFleur likes to utilize his full backs - who start off in a traditional position but then go in motion before the snap to around the same location. Also given his receiving experience as more of a dump off option at Texas is similar to how a fullback would be used. I’m also a big fan of the way he coils into blocks when he gets some steps in beforehand.

Its not something that I’ve seen floated or suggested, but just what I thought of when I watched him after reading we brought him in.

To each his own, I don't see a full-time FB conversion in his future.  

Nearly half of the TEs in this class are projections based on what FOs think they can do in NFL, not what they did in college. 

I'd be really surprised if he wasn't drafted, he's an underrated player IMHO. 

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