Leader Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Took a look at Spotrac listing overall GBP player expenditures..... Currently, there are 91 players signed in 2019 for an overall expenditure of 189M (rounded to closest million dollar amount). I suspect that's gonna drop relatively soon..... 2020: 57 players signed for 197M 2020 positional breakdown: QB - spending goes up 6.5M from 2019 RB - spending goes down 120 thousand from 2019 WR- goes up 912 thousand TE - goes down 3.8M OL - goes down 6.1M DL - goes up 6.9M LBs- goes up 13.2M (winner of the largest positional increase sweepstakes). DBs- goes down 3.5M STs- goes down 5.1M This might be a premature exercise given the 2019 number is going to decrease with upcoming cuts - but - unless we let somebody significant go, the ranges will probably hold true in the general sense. 2020 UFAs of note: Bulaga Martinez Allison Fackrell Crosby Davis Lewis Tramon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 @Leader They are going to pay up the big bucks for Kenny Clark as well, no way they let his contract run out (at the end of 2020). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 20 hours ago, packfanfb said: First round. Then trade back into first for WR. Packers forum heads explode 🤣😂 How are we going to draft a guard then? I say we draft a guard first round and then completely ignore the ILB position. Can't draft a bust if you don't draft one at all.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I guess that means Bolton is going to be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chili said: I guess that means Bolton is going to be fine. Yes and that And Burks will be fine early And that nobody would give a conditional 7th for Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, Chili said: I guess that means Bolton is going to be fine. Hmmmm......thats unfortunate in my book. Be interesting to figure out what (and where) this selection went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, pacman5252 said: And that nobody would give a conditional 7th for Jones Wait till he signs somewhere and people start complaining about how Gute was unable to get anything for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Leader said: Hmmmm......thats unfortunate in my book. Be interesting to figure out what (and where) this selection went wrong. I pinpoint the moment where we went wrong was the Spriggs trade up. When we traded up we all knew the Packers were in a need of a S/ILB hybrid due to the increasing use of nickle and dime defences in the NFL. Deion Jones was right there for us to draft but instead we drafted Spriggs. Deion Jones was drafted just a few picks later. The hybrid role remained unresolved until the very next year when we drafted Josh Jones. That didn't work and so we drafted Oren Burks and the jury is currently out on this one. The Packers essentially chose to draft a backup OL who was never going to start ahead of Bakhtiari and Bulaga over a player who could start right away and make an impact on our defence. All this in the freaking 2nd round and with a trade up to boot. Urgh. I hated that decision then and I hate it now. Dieon Jones had the required size and speed but what especially made him stood out for me was his physicality, leadership and character. He had intangibles that would've been a wonderful addition to our defence and I was amazed that the Packers scouts and leadership did not see this. I'm still struggling to understand what was it about Spriggs they liked more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Bakhtiari was unsigned and Bulaga had been hurt. Spriggs showed what I expected of him when he was playing healthy, that was just rare. OT with his movement skills are more rare than tweener S/LB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I still don't know what the deal is with Spriggs. They didn't reach an injury settlement so if we want to waive him now, he'll have to pass a physical first. Did we ever get any word from the organization regarding this cut? It will be hilarious if we somehow resign him on the cheap for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Leader said: Hmmmm......thats unfortunate in my book. Be interesting to figure out what (and where) this selection went wrong. Jones is a good mix of his own head and the Packers coaching staff wasting time with him as a safety. This guy was a LB from day 1. Knowing what we know now, would he have quit on us had we moved him there sooner? Who knows? Ted certainly missed on the football character of this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chili said: I pinpoint the moment where we went wrong was the Spriggs trade up. When we traded up we all knew the Packers were in a need of a S/ILB hybrid due to the increasing use of nickle and dime defences in the NFL. Deion Jones was right there for us to draft but instead we drafted Spriggs. Deion Jones was drafted just a few picks later. The hybrid role remained unresolved until the very next year when we drafted Josh Jones. That didn't work and so we drafted Oren Burks and the jury is currently out on this one. The Packers essentially chose to draft a backup OL who was never going to start ahead of Bakhtiari and Bulaga over a player who could start right away and make an impact on our defence. All this in the freaking 2nd round and with a trade up to boot. Urgh. I hated that decision then and I hate it now. Dieon Jones had the required size and speed but what especially made him stood out for me was his physicality, leadership and character. He had intangibles that would've been a wonderful addition to our defence and I was amazed that the Packers scouts and leadership did not see this. I'm still struggling to understand what was it about Spriggs they liked more. Apparently GBP FO considered the need for hybrid S/LB to be less than OL reinforcement. Cant put the timing of events back in place exactly - but I'd wager Bulaga's situation plus the presence of Burnett still came in to play with the decision. I look at it from a talent evaluation of application perspective....and either they FO (and scouts) gauged Jones skills wrong - or the coaches couldnt figure out what round hole he fit in to. Be interesting to see where he goes and how he's used in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, spilltray said: Bakhtiari was unsigned and Bulaga had been hurt. Spriggs showed what I expected of him when he was playing healthy, that was just rare. OT with his movement skills are more rare than tweener S/LB. Fair point. Sometimes I wonder had we made the right decision the first time round it wouldn't have screwed up the following year's draft pick. We could've had Juju, Kamara or Kupp as alternatives but because the hybrid S/ILB was still a need we passed up on those guys. We should've dealt with it the first time round instead of letting it linger to the following year. Edited August 25, 2019 by Chili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Packer_ESP said: I still don't know what the deal is with Spriggs. They didn't reach an injury settlement so if we want to waive him now, he'll have to pass a physical first. Did we ever get any word from the organization regarding this cut? It will be hilarious if we somehow resign him on the cheap for 2020. To add to this, people that do this for a living like Zach Kruse are still saying that an injury settlement on Spriggs is certainly coming soon: https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/25/packers-swing-and-miss-on-another-second-round-pick/ However, the injury settlement is only possible within 5 days of the Waived/Injured designation. Quote Teams and players have a 5 day window to agree to this settlement https://overthecap.com/what-exactly-are-injury-settlements/ What's more, the Waived/Injured designation is mandatory for all non-vested veterans (less than four years of experience) so it was the only way Spriggs could be put on IR. It's NOT that the Packers chose to do this rather than outright IR him. Quote Prior to the first cutdown date in training camp, injured players with fewer than four years of service time cannot be placed on injured reserve until they pass through waivers. Teams will cut this sort of player with a waived-injured designation, allowing other teams to place a claim if they so choose. If the player goes unclaimed, his team can place him on IR or agree to an injury settlement, then fully release him from the roster. https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/06/nfl-waivers-difference-release With all of this in mind and unless I've missed something, there are only two possibilities here: The Packers wanted an injury settlement that Spriggs' agent felt was unfair and they couldn't reach a deal. Spriggs will remain on IR until he can pass a physical and then he will be released and become a FA. Spriggs really has a long term injury and the Packers really wanted to IR him. They will keep him there for the year and then either re-sign him for 2020 or let him walk as a FA, which would be weird after keeping him on IR through the year. I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking this but there's absolutely no news about him anywhere and most of the takes I read about him (e.g. injury settlement coming soon) are factually incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 With a thinning linebacker group, the Packers put in a waiver claim for Nicholas Grigsby, most recently of the Baltimore Ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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