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2 hours ago, cannondale said:

I'm a Rodgers "worshipper" and I can say without a doubt that he needs to start hitting some of those deep balls that are open.

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, so good for you. 

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1 hour ago, R T said:

I don't know if it's been noted anywhere, but the Packers signed EDGE Aaron Adeoye to replace Dunbar on the PS.

Let's read into this and surmise that King/Jaire are in better health than the Smiths.

But let's also remember that they are human and need to be loved.

Just like everyone else does.

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3 hours ago, packfanfb said:

12's biggest problem is the "I don't want to chance an INT" on those deep throws. Just put it on our guy and give him a damn chance to make a play. Most of these CBs don't turn around anyways. 

He's done that plenty.

Part of the problem is that his primary deep threat is the anti-Allen Robinson when it comes to contested balls. Perfect example vs. DET this year. MVS running a route up the sideline with a CB (Melifonwu) on his hip, who never turned for the ball. Rodgers gives MVS a chance and the pass hits the CB in the head. MVS never even tried to make a play, he just kept running, never elevated and watched the ball bounce off the defender 1 foot from his chest. Robinson makes that catch 80% of the time. MVS never even attempted that catch.

It's been the same story with MVS from day 1. He tracks deep balls poorly and is a total puss*-cat at the catch point. Rodgers has "overthrown" him by about 3-4 feet on numerous deep balls this season, that's about 2% of the total distance a deep pass travels. When the ball is in the air that long, travelling that far, some responsibility lies with the WR to properly track it, apply a little burst if necessary and get under it. 

MVS struggles picking up deep balls, struggles catching deep balls and is bizarrely passive in contested ball situations. Bad set of traits for a deep threat. For an offense struggling with consistency, deep shots to MVS aren't really worth the target. What other receiver on the roster, except Adams, even has the tools to justify vertical routes, let alone excel on them?  

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5 minutes ago, Les Punting said:

He's done that plenty.

Part of the problem is that his primary deep threat is the anti-Allen Robinson when it comes to contested balls. Perfect example vs. DET this year. MVS running a route up the sideline with a CB (Melifonwu) on his hip, who never turned for the ball. Rodgers gives MVS a chance and the pass hits the CB in the head. MVS never even tried to make a play, he just kept running, never elevated and watched the ball bounce off the defender 1 foot from his chest. Robinson makes that catch 80% of the time. MVS never even attempted that catch.

It's been the same story with MVS from day 1. He tracks deep balls poorly and is a total puss*-cat at the catch point. Rodgers has "overthrown" him by about 3-4 feet on numerous deep balls this season, that's about 2% of the total distance a deep pass travels. When the ball is in the air that long, travelling that far, some responsibility lies with the WR to properly track it, apply a little burst if necessary and get under it. 

MVS struggles picking up deep balls, struggles catching deep balls and is bizarrely passive in contested ball situations. Bad set of traits for a deep threat. For an offense struggling with consistency, deep shots to MVS aren't really worth the target. What other receiver on the roster, except Adams, even has the tools to justify vertical routes, let alone excel on them?  

I don't think any of our guys are great at 50/50 balls, but if he's going to throw it, which he has several times this year, put it on the guy, not 5 yards over his head. He did it again with Lazard running that go up the seam. Lazard had a step on the CB and Rodgers badly overthrew him. If anything, throw that ball short and force Lazard to have to fight back through the defender for an automatic PI. 

12's deep ball is off right now. Other than that, he's been pretty lights out per usual. 

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1 hour ago, incognito_man said:

Let's read into this and surmise that King/Jaire are in better health than the Smiths.

But let's also remember that they human and need to be loved.

Just like everyone else does.

Working Morrissey lyrics into a football analogy takes great skill.  Those who know Morrissey’s style will understand and appreciate the difficulty, lol.

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