Sasquatch Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, mtsportsfan1 said: Don't know if it has been mentioned, but I don't think we had any significant injuries for the first time in awhile ! A memo from Gute was delivered to all active players before the Ravens game. It said, “All beds in our MASH unit are full.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, coachbuns said: Sometimes stats don't mean a heck of a lot. Overall, the running game has been a nice compliment to the passing game. The play calling often times is average to poor on the running game. The play calling is exactly the same as it was last year. The running game not meaning a lot is just not true. Our offense is not elite. It's average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: The play calling is exactly the same as it was last year. The running game not meaning a lot is just not true. Our offense is not elite. It's average. Being down the OL players GB has to date probably explains a lot of that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 7 hours ago, squire12 said: Being down the OL players GB has to date probably explains a lot of that It absolutely does. Which is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 8 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: The play calling is exactly the same as it was last year. The running game not meaning a lot is just not true. Our offense is not elite. It's average. 30 plus points in the last 4 games is average ? Cmon man. Outside of the Sea and NO ( not counting the KC game obviously) game they’ve been very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: It absolutely does. Which is the problem. Then why blame the running backs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, coachbuns said: Then why blame the running backs? Because to do otherwise is logically inconsistent. You can't declare Jones an elite and special back for producing elite numbers behind an elite offensive line, and then maintain that he's still an elite back while producing average numbers behind an average offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 13 hours ago, HighCalebR said: Was Kamal Martin bad at ST? is Duff somehow better. Still seems like an odd move. I believe that Duff is better at ST. I think that is part of why we drafted him. Seems like Ty Summers 2.0, just we took him a year before we let Summers walk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 10 hours ago, packfanfb said: We've also had an OL most of year with 3-4 guys who are below average to average run blockers. Right now all five are variably below-average, no? (As run blockers). I assume you were maybe thinking Jenkins was good, and maybe Turner was average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, packfanfb said: We've also had an OL most of year with 3-4 guys who are below average to average run blockers. Not trying to be confrontational but love to see some data which bears this out. I'm putting Jenkins, Runyan and Turner above average run blockers and I'd throw Meyers into the slight above average from the eye test. Also, someone put up a graph of guards and where they fell on pass and run blocking. I thought Newman was well above average in run blocking and atrocious at pass blocking. Maybe it was the reverse and I'm too lazy to look it up. Edited December 21, 2021 by Old Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Not trying to be confrontational but love to see some data which bears this out. I'm putting Jenkins, Runyan and Turner above average run blockers and I'd throw Meyers into the slight above average from the eye test. Also, someone put up a graph of guards and where they fell on pass and run blocking. I thought Newman was well above average in run blocking and atrocious at pass blocking. Maybe it was the reverse and I'm too lazy to look it up. I don't have a PFF membership, but part of my point is that Myers and Jenkins have missed a lot of time. Patrick is definitely an average run blocker at best (probably below average) and I'd venture to guess that Newman is in the same category. Runyan seems to be better based on the eye test. I would also guess that both Nijman and Turner are grading out better against the pass versus the run. The point is...in response to the initial post, that our OL last season included Jenkins and Linsley on the interior who would easily be our No. 1 and 2 run blockers on the inside this season. That has obviously impacted the lack of explosive runs from Jones, and to a lesser extent, Dillon. Edited December 21, 2021 by packfanfb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Tyler Davis gonna end up being a player? I think 12 really liked him IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Not trying to be confrontational but love to see some data which bears this out. I'm putting Jenkins, Runyan and Turner above average run blockers and I'd throw Meyers into the slight above average from the eye test. Also, someone put up a graph of guards and where they fell on pass and run blocking. I thought Newman was well above average in run blocking and atrocious at pass blocking. Maybe it was the reverse and I'm too lazy to look it up. I'll see if I can get into PFF.... Tackles: Jenkins. #11 graded tackle. 81.2 pass block. 76.6 run block. (#10 pass, #19 run) Turner. #52 graded tackle. 68.5 pass block. 59.7 run block. Nijman. #57 graded tackle. 66.8 pass block. 61.6 run block. (Very happy for him.) Meyers (C). #27 graded center. 68 pass block. 56.8 run block. (Linsley is #3, Humphrey is #1) Patrick (C). #32 graded center. 62.9 pass block. 51.1 run block. Runyan. #50 graded guard. 67.4 pass block. 56.6 run block. Newman. #61 graded guard. 60 pass block. 50..7 run block. Newman is the 5'th worst graded guard in the run block category, for whatever that is worth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I know we've had the Myers/Humphrey discussion and it's still early (and I think Myers is going to be a good player), but Humphrey is probably going to the Pro Bowl as a rookie. He's been a standout this season. We may have picked the wrong guy (depending on scheme fit differences, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: Tyler Davis gonna end up being a player? I think 12 really liked him IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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