craig Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 One more running-stats note. Ski's graph is based on yardage. Running stats routinely list total and average, YPA. When considering Dillon/Jones, they have been notably lacking in long runs. An occasional long-run makes a world of difference in yards and YPA and in every running-game stat. And for good reason, because big plays can win games. But the fact that Dillon/Jones still have kinda favorable running stats, relative to their bad blocking, without the assistance of some 50-yard runs, is significant. A couple of possibly fluky long runs might have made their stats look way better. Sometimes I'd like to see what the MEDIAN YPA was, instead of just the AVERAGE YPA. A team can get a 5.0 YPA with one 81 yard long run and 19 1-yard runs. The 19 one-yard runs might set up a whole lot of punts. Other team might have a 4.2 YPA, with 16 four-yard runs, 2 no-yard runs, and a couple of 12-yard runs. It might be that the team with 18-of-20 runs being ≥4 yards might actually be better able to sustain consistent offense than the team with the big run but otherwise lots of crummy runs? Those numbers are extreme, but I kinda feel like the Packers have tended more towards the "median-run" profile. Lots of 3-4-5 yard runs, without many long ones. A lot of those 3-4-5 yard runs don't pound the opponent, and don't that often get past the 1st-down-markers. But they do enable a lot of 2nd-and-3rd situations where it doesn't take a very long pass to make a first down and keep the drive moving. A team has what, ~450-500 first downs in a season? Each leads to either a score, another first down, a punt, or a turnover. Over a season, 4 long runs impact <1% of those 450-500 first down scenarios. I think the Packers orientation towards more of a "decent-median-run" run game maybe supports Rodgers with a lot of opportunities to have manageable 2nd and 3rd downs.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leader Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap - Kenny Clark making the initial Pro Bowl roster triggers an escalator in his contract - his base salary in 2022 now increases by $250,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Andrew Brandt - The Packers have 3 Pro Bowlers, down from 7 last year. The other four are still there, just injured this year. In other words, the Packers have the best record in the NFL without 4 of their top 7 players. MVP and Coach of the Year seem theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Brandt knows nothing. I've been assured on this forum that Belichick is a lock for COY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 So I take it the odds of MVS playing are extremely low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Paul Bretl - Over the Packers last 3 games, Big Dog ranks 9th among TEs in YAC and 7th in YAC per catch per PFF. Deguara ranks 13th in YAC and 6th in YAC per catch during that same span. /// I wonder how Mark Andrews ranks 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 Bill Huber - Did you know Matt LaFleur’s teams are 17-5 in games decided by one score? That .773 winning percentage is the best in the NFL. For some context, the Packers have played the 19th-most one-score games but have the third-most wins and the fewest losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Leader said: Bill Huber - Did you know Matt LaFleur’s teams are 17-5 in games decided by one score? That .773 winning percentage is the best in the NFL. For some context, the Packers have played the 19th-most one-score games but have the third-most wins and the fewest losses. That’s nice. Can we win some more by 2+ scores please? Sincerely, My congested arteries 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, mikebpackfan said: That’s nice. Can we win some more by 2+ scores please? Sincerely, My congested arteries Starting with today's Xmas game and then 3+ scores more vs the Vikings. Now THAT would be a sweet present. Edited December 25, 2021 by coachbuns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 10:29 AM, craig said: One more running-stats note. Ski's graph is based on yardage. Running stats routinely list total and average, YPA. When considering Dillon/Jones, they have been notably lacking in long runs. An occasional long-run makes a world of difference in yards and YPA and in every running-game stat. And for good reason, because big plays can win games. But the fact that Dillon/Jones still have kinda favorable running stats, relative to their bad blocking, without the assistance of some 50-yard runs, is significant. A couple of possibly fluky long runs might have made their stats look way better. Sometimes I'd like to see what the MEDIAN YPA was, instead of just the AVERAGE YPA. A team can get a 5.0 YPA with one 81 yard long run and 19 1-yard runs. The 19 one-yard runs might set up a whole lot of punts. Other team might have a 4.2 YPA, with 16 four-yard runs, 2 no-yard runs, and a couple of 12-yard runs. It might be that the team with 18-of-20 runs being ≥4 yards might actually be better able to sustain consistent offense than the team with the big run but otherwise lots of crummy runs? Those numbers are extreme, but I kinda feel like the Packers have tended more towards the "median-run" profile. Lots of 3-4-5 yard runs, without many long ones. A lot of those 3-4-5 yard runs don't pound the opponent, and don't that often get past the 1st-down-markers. But they do enable a lot of 2nd-and-3rd situations where it doesn't take a very long pass to make a first down and keep the drive moving. A team has what, ~450-500 first downs in a season? Each leads to either a score, another first down, a punt, or a turnover. Over a season, 4 long runs impact <1% of those 450-500 first down scenarios. I think the Packers orientation towards more of a "decent-median-run" run game maybe supports Rodgers with a lot of opportunities to have manageable 2nd and 3rd downs.? Issue being the difference between 2nd and 10 and 2nd and 8 isn't that significant. Explosive plays are what drives offenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 Field Yates - Packers coach Matt LaFleur is now the first head coach NFL history with at least 12 wins in each of his first 3 seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Leader said: Field Yates - Packers coach Matt LaFleur is now the first head coach NFL history with at least 12 wins in each of his first 3 seasons. 38-9 is pretty impressive that is for sure. 40-9 would look even better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 Aaron Nagler - Rasul Douglas is the first player to post an INT in three straight games at Lambeau Field since Nick Collins in 2010. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Leader said: Field Yates - Packers coach Matt LaFleur is now the first head coach NFL history with at least 12 wins in each of his first 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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