Mr Bad Example Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 hours ago, pgwingman said: Psshh, and players say there's nothing to do in GB in the offseason. Ain't no Hyvee in Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 6:32 AM, Sandy said: Thank you all for the recent examples. Sounds like some could be argued are balanced teams. I think this does kill the concept of "defense wins championships" a bit. In this day and age an elite offense is enough - the rule changes made sure of it. Defenses can win championships, but no longer are a prerequisite. I can see Jordan Love taking this team to a deep playoff run. It's a weak conference and we have a weak schedule. Even if Joe Barry leads an average defense, that might be enough to do it. That could be the same reason Rodgers decides to come back. Yeah but to have an elite offense, you usually need an elite QB or at least a high end QB. This is no knock on Love, but the odds on him being an elite QB first year on the job is extremely low. All very well saying its a weak conference but when you have a defence that has been a let down and your QB is an unproven first year starter then you are unlikely to be relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantyWrestler Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mikemike778 said: Yeah but to have an elite offense, you usually need an elite QB or at least a high end QB. This is no knock on Love, but the odds on him being an elite QB first year on the job is extremely low. All very well saying its a weak conference but when you have a defence that has been a let down and your QB is an unproven first year starter then you are unlikely to be relevant. Good thing it’s not his first year. 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mikemike778 said: Yeah but to have an elite offense, you usually need an elite QB or at least a high end QB. This is no knock on Love, but the odds on him being an elite QB first year on the job is extremely low. All very well saying its a weak conference but when you have a defence that has been a let down and your QB is an unproven first year starter then you are unlikely to be relevant. He's going to have some growing pains for sure. Agree odds are he won't be elite. He may be very good give us a shot at the playoffs. We won't be contending for a title whether it's Rodgers or Love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I really hope Tonyan comes back if Rodgers leaves. Would love to see a TE with a QB who throws to the middle of the field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 hours ago, mikemike778 said: Yeah but to have an elite offense, you usually need an elite QB or at least a high end QB. This is no knock on Love, but the odds on him being an elite QB first year on the job is extremely low. All very well saying its a weak conference but when you have a defence that has been a let down and your QB is an unproven first year starter then you are unlikely to be relevant. Fourth year QB. With all four years in the same offense. With a potentially dominant offensive line, Christian Watson and Aaron Jones carrying a top 12ish defense through the playoffs. If Love is any good we'll know this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAH1223 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, FAH1223 said: Did not think I would spend a full hour on a Tuesday night watching a football interview, but this was great. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Outpost31 said: I really hope Tonyan comes back if Rodgers leaves. Would love to see a TE with a QB who throws to the middle of the field. Not going to happen. He is going to get paid more than what we can offer I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Spotrac has Tonyan's expected contract at 1 year, $5.093M. For whatever that is worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Spotrac has Tonyan's expected contract at 1 year, $5.093M. For whatever that is worth. I'd bring him back at that price, and then spend a high pick on a TE in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I'd bring him back at that price, and then spend a high pick on a TE in the draft. I'd see if he wanted a longer term deal and build off of that contract. ...and I'd still pick a TE in round 2 or 4. But never again in round 3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: Spotrac has Tonyan's expected contract at 1 year, $5.093M. For whatever that is worth. I think that is well off base for his production. I mean Tyler Coklin is getting nearly $7m a year!!!! I really think he can command around $8m AAV, those guys listed above who have similar production are around that level or more and factor in that Tonyan missed half a season of action in 2021, his production level would be higher. In other news Robert Woods has been released by the Titans. Always liked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Brit Pack said: I think that is well off base for his production. I mean Tyler Coklin is getting nearly $7m a year!!!! I really think he can command around $8m AAV, those guys listed above who have similar production are around that level or more and factor in that Tonyan missed half a season of action in 2021, his production level would be higher. In other news Robert Woods has been released by the Titans. Always liked him Conklin didn't have a shredded knee prior to signing that deal. Tonyans one good year came when he was healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger93 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 hours ago, vegas492 said: I'd see if he wanted a longer term deal and build off of that contract. ...and I'd still pick a TE in round 2 or 4. But never again in round 3. The best TE the Packers had in this century was a 3rd Round Pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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