HokieHigh Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Gary, Smith, top 2 round pick, Enagbare, Hollins is a fine EDGE group. Could become elite depending how much the draft pick contributes year 1. Garvin is still in the mix. This is the year he has to turn his physical tools into production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Gary, Smith, top 2 round pick, Enagbare, Hollins is a fine EDGE group. Could become elite depending how much the draft pick contributes year 1. Yea, as much as I enjoyed the Garvin/Hamilton combo rushing off the edge the last couple of years, I'll take a 2nd year Enagbare and Hollins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, HokieHigh said: Garvin is still in the mix. This is the year he has to turn his physical tools into production I know it's not the case and he's actually still pretty young, but I feel like Garvin has been on the team for like 10 years lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: Garvin is still in the mix. This is the year he has to turn his physical tools into production Meh, Garvin is bad. Slow, not explosive and no rush moves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Gary, Smith, top 2 round pick, Enagbare, Hollins is a fine EDGE group. Could become elite depending how much the draft pick contributes year 1. Frankly, adding Hollins back makes a guy like Van Ness that much more enticing to me because he can slide inside too. The added depth gives us a bit more flexibility to maybe get a tools guy who isn't simply a true EDGE player. Could even go the other way with a guy like Nolan who wouldn't be a base EDGE player but could be a pass rush freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I know it's not the case and he's actually still pretty young, but I feel like Garvin has been on the team for like 10 years lol. He's somehow still only 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: Garvin is still in the mix. This is the year he has to turn his physical tools into production He is and it is probably a make-or-break season for his career, but the Hollins signing isn't a positive in what the staff might be thinking of his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, wgbeethree said: He's somehow still only 23. I think he was 20 when we drafted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, packfanfb said: I think he was 20 when we drafted him. Does the math.... Checks out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Meh, Garvin is bad. Slow, not explosive and no rush moves. He has elite explosiveness and looks like an absolute man out there. Bullrush is strong, can hold an edge. Just not enough moves in his toolbox and not violent enough with his hands to be effective IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, HokieHigh said: He has elite explosiveness and looks like an absolute man out there. Bullrush is strong, can hold an edge. Just not enough moves in his toolbox and not violent enough with his hands to be effective IMO 1 sack in 673 defensive snaps. Saying anything is "elite" about Garvin is pretty comical. He's about just a guy as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: 1 sack in 673 defensive snaps. Saying anything is "elite" about Garvin is pretty comical. He's about just a guy as they come. 36 inch vertical and 1005 broad is nutty at his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, HokieHigh said: 36 inch vertical and 1005 broad is nutty at his size Yeah it's really good, but we've seen Garvin on the football field for 3 years now. He's not explosive. Combine becomes irrelevant if the player hasn't played up to his measurables in 700 snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Then you have the pass catchers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Frankly, adding Hollins back makes a guy like Van Ness that much more enticing to me because he can slide inside too. The added depth gives us a bit more flexibility to maybe get a tools guy who isn't simply a true EDGE player. Could even go the other way with a guy like Nolan who wouldn't be a base EDGE player but could be a pass rush freak. I see this often. Nolan as a pass rush freak. I've watched a little of him and looked at his stats. Not a lot of sacks. Was it schematic? Like did he just not rush? Or is that he doesn't know how, despite having great measurables? 63 tackles 12.5 sacks. Great season. Only those are his cumulative stats over 4 seasons and 38 games. Edited March 23, 2023 by vegas492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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