packfanfb Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Then you have the pass catchers.... *Whispers: and that's a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 My opinion on Garvin is that you give a guy like that as many chances as you can to hit. Much like Kendall Donnerson from a few years ago. Chances are, he doesn't hit. But you keep that until you can't anymore. If it is Enagbare + Draft Pick + Hollins that does it, well then, we tried. Not like he is a major investment anyway, at just over a million dollars, he will be 0.45% of the cap if he makes the team. On the other hand, I did think Hollins played well in his sub role last season, and absolutely like him on the team this season. If the edge player just isn't a good value where we pick, we can still function with Smith, Enagbare, and Hollins until Gary is 100% back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gopackgo972 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Justin Hollins resigned! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, gopackgo972 said: Justin Hollins resigned! I wonder what his next job will be. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo972 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, MaximusGluteus said: I wonder what his next job will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, gopackgo972 said: Justin Hollins resigned! https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2023/3/23/23653385/2023-free-agency-update-green-bay-packers-news-re-sign-olb-justin-hollins-to-1-year-deal-per-report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 hours ago, gopackgo972 said: Justin Hollins resigned! Good minor move for a guy who punched above his weight. RG will take time to get back to form. Need a rotation of guys there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Maybe he's a level better than a JAG. Still need to draft one or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Maybe he's a level better than a JAG. Still need to draft one or two. He should be the guy who pushes Garvin off the roster as the #5 or #6 EDGE depending on how many we keep. Gary, Enagbare and Smith, so we need 2 more IMO. Give me Foskey and Hall in round 2. I'm assuming we are getting the 2 - 2nd from the Jets or trading down for an extra second or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Old Guy said: He should be the guy who pushes Garvin off the roster as the #5 or #6 EDGE depending on how many we keep. Gary, Enagbare and Smith, so we need 2 more IMO. Give me Foskey and Hall in round 2. I'm assuming we are getting the 2 - 2nd from the Jets or trading down for an extra second or two. Piggybacking this.... While I really want an EDGE with our first overall pick.....if there is a WR there like JSN or even QJ, I'm having a hard time passing them up for an EDGE like Smith or even LVN. For the simple reason that I feel like the EDGE guys in round two are much, much better and deeper than the crop of WR's after JSN, QJ and even JA. How do you see the draft, post round one for EDGE and WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, vegas492 said: Piggybacking this.... While I really want an EDGE with our first overall pick.....if there is a WR there like JSN or even QJ, I'm having a hard time passing them up for an EDGE like Smith or even LVN. For the simple reason that I feel like the EDGE guys in round two are much, much better and deeper than the crop of WR's after JSN, QJ and even JA. How do you see the draft, post round one for EDGE and WR? If you are asking me personally, I look at what we've been able to do in rounds 2, 3 even later getting very quality WRs. I don't see any WR in this draft that is a game changing player like a Jefferson or Chase. I believe the value in this draft if late round 1 through round 2 into middle of round 3. I'd like as many bites of the apple in that range as possible. I'm not as high on Jalin Hyatt as I was before the combine. I also know he doesn't exactly meet our size requirements, but I'm taking him in mid to late round 2 if he's on the board. JSN makes me nervous. He's the first guy who basically bailed on his team when they were in the playoffs. He was healthy enough to play in the playoff games. Is that a red flag? Kid was getting paid pretty well with the NIL money. As far as EDGE, after Anderson there are a group of guys who could go in round 1 or 2. Yes, there are 3 or 4 guys who people would be shocked if they lasted until round 2, but I don't see can't miss guys in any of them. The kid from Clemson, Myles Murphy, is was overrated. I could see him sliding into late round 1 or even round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, vegas492 said: I see this often. Nolan as a pass rush freak. I've watched a little of him and looked at his stats. Not a lot of sacks. Was it schematic? Like did he just not rush? Or is that he doesn't know how, despite having great measurables? 63 tackles 12.5 sacks. Great season. Only those are his cumulative stats over 4 seasons and 38 games. I never pick the lighter guys over 260+ ones at edge. Usually, the Packers don't either. Always take a Marcus Davenport - mostly a power rusher, over a Harold Landry - mostly a speed rusher (both from the 2018 draft). While both have been very productive since they were drafted (though Landry had an ACL in 2022), a speed rusher is something of a one-trick pony, while a power rusher can expand his repertoire easier and the extra size always helps (Davenport was about a stone heavier than Landry). The last real speed rusher the Packers had (if memory serves) was KGB, a 5th round pick drafted in 2000. Edited March 24, 2023 by OneTwoSixFive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zycho32 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: I never pick the lighter guys over 260+ ones at edge. Usually, the Packers don't either. Always take a Marcus Davenport - mostly a power rusher, over a Harold Landry - mostly a speed rusher (both from the 2018 draft). While both have been very productive since they were drafted (though Landry had an ACL in 2022), a speed rusher is something of a one-trick pony, while a power rusher can expand his repertoire easier and the extra size always helps (Davenport was about a stone heavier than Landry). The last real speed rusher the Packers had (if memory serves) was KGB, a 5th round pick drafted in 2000. I take it Clay Matthews didn't quality as a speed rusher despite being on the lighter side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: I never pick the lighter guys over 260+ ones at edge. Usually, the Packers don't either. Always take a Marcus Davenport - mostly a power rusher, over a Harold Landry - mostly a speed rusher (both from the 2018 draft). While both have been very productive since they were drafted (though Landry had an ACL in 2022), a speed rusher is something of a one-trick pony, while a power rusher can expand his repertoire easier and the extra size always helps (Davenport was about a stone heavier than Landry). The last real speed rusher the Packers had (if memory serves) was KGB, a 5th round pick drafted in 2000. CMIII is wondering if you forgot him? Also, Nick Perry was the quintessential one trick pony, a power rusher and we know how that pick turned out. I'm guessing guys like Brian Burns are not your cup of tea? I think you should always have 1 speed rusher on your team. Even if just a specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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