TheKillerNacho Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Friend with the subscription sent me the updated numbers so I'm sending them to you. A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, this should be interesting. Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format. Also keep in mind that players who do not have a certain Snap % are not included (not sure what exactly the minimum snap count is... I think its like 25%). Quarterback Top 5: 1. Tom Brady 94.9 2. Matt Ryan 89.8 3. Ben Roethlisberger 89.3 4. Drew Brees 87.8 5. Carson Wentz 87.6 Bottom 5: 1. Blaine Gabbert 42.6 2. Brock Osweiler 47.7 3. DeShone Kizer 51.1 4. Drew Stanton 51.2 5. Trevor Siemian 53.2 Runningback Top 5: 1. Todd Gurley 92.0 2. Alvin Kamara 90.6 3a. Dion Lewis 89.4 3b. Kareem Hunt 89.4 5. Alex Collins 87.6 Bottom 5: 1. Ameer Abdullah 42.1 2. Adrian Peterson 43.5 3. Samaje Perine 46.3 4. Charles Sims 47.2 5. Shane Vereen 48.0 Fullback Top 5: 1. Patrick Ricard 82.7 2. James Develin 80.1 3. Zach Line 79.0 4. Kyle Juszczyk 74.9 5. Anthony Sherman 73.9 Bottom 5: 1. Derrick Coleman 31.4 2. Roosevelt Nix 37.7 3. Lawrence Thomas 38.1 4. Derek Watt 40.2 5a. Keith Smith 40.3 5b. Michael Burton 40.3 Wide Receiver Top 5: 1. Antonio Brown 93.7 2. Julio Jones 91.6 3. Michael Thomas 91.5 4. DeAndre Hopkins 90.6 5. Keenan Allen 89.1 Bottom 5: 1. Breshad Perriman 39.0 2. Kamar Aiken 39.7 3. Ricardo Louis 41.4 4. Jordan Matthews 41.7 5a. Torrey Smith 42.1 5b. Seth Roberts 42.1 Tight End Top 5: 1. Rob Gronkowski 92.7 2. Hunter Henry 88.0 3. Travis Kelce 87.6 4. Delanie Walker 84.1 5. Zach Ertz 80.9 Bottom 5: 1. Vernon Davis 40.7 2. Lance Kendricks 41.8 3. O.J. Howard 41.9 4. Jonnu Smith 42.1 5. Evan Engram 42.2 Offensive Tackle Top 5: 1. David Bakhtiari 88.9 2. Joe Staley 87.4 3a. Joe Thomas 86.4 3b. Jason Peters 86.4 5. Daryl Williams 86.2 Bottom 5: 1. Rees Odhiambo 27.5 2. Breno Giacomini 32.7 3. Greg Robinson 36.6 4a. John Wetzel 37.7 4b. Chris Clark 37.7 Offensive Guard Top 5: 1. David DeCastro 92.5 2. Zack Martin 92.2 3a. Brandon Brooks 88.7 3b. Andrew Norwell 88.7 5. Josh Sitton 86.0 Bottom 5: 1. Jeremy Vujnovich 34.1 2. Ethan Pocic 35.7 3. Xavier Su'a-Filo 35.8 4. Earl Watford 36.7 5. Brian Winters 36.9 Center Top 5: 1. Jason Kelce 93.2 2. Travis Frederick 90.8 3. Alex Mack 88.4 4. David Andrews 83.0 5. Rodney Hudson 81.6 Bottom 5: 1. Wesley Johnson 31.3 2. Spencer Pulley 32.5 3. Zane Beadles 32.9 4. Greg Mancz 39.0 5. Ryan Kelly 39.9 Cornerback Top 7: 1. Casey Hayward 96.4 2. Jalen Ramsey 92.2 3. Tre'Davious White 91.6 4. Patrick Robinson 90.7 5. A.J. Bouye 90.4 6. Kendall Fuller 90.0 7. Marshon Lattimore 89.9 Bottom 5: 1. Kevin Johnson 32.0 2. Phillip Gaines 35.9 3. Dontae Johnson 36.9 4. Juston Burris 37.3 5. Jeremy Lane 37.8 Safety Top 5: 1. Harrison Smith 98.8 2. Adrian Amos 92.0 3a. Kevin Byard 90.1 3b. Lamarcus Joyner 90.1 5. Glover Quin 89.0 Bottom 5: 1. Sean Davis 34.8 2. Kenny Vaccaro 35.4 3. Josh Shaw 37.5 4. Daniel Sorensen 39.7 5. Kentrell Brice 40.0 Linebacker Top 5: 1. Bobby Wagner 96.7 2. Luke Kuechly 94.6 3. Lavonte David 94.2 4. Reuben Foster 90.7 5. Deion Jones 89.6 Bottom 5: 1. Darron Lee 34.9 2. Jordan Evans 35.0 3. Nick Vigil 35.1 4. Antonio Morrison 35.8 5. Jamie Collins 35.9 "Defensive Interior" Top 8: 1. Aaron Donald 98.4 2. Geno Atkins 91.5 3. Kawann Short 91.1 4. Ndamukong Suh 91.0 5. Fletcher Cox 90.5 6a. DeForest Buckner 90.4 6b. Damon Harrison 90.4 8. Gerald McCoy 90.3 Bottom 8: 1. Ziggy Hood 38.5 2. Tanzel Smart 41.2 3. Terrell McClain 41.8 4. Brandon Mebane 43.1 5. Andrew Billings 43.6 6. Cedric Thornton 43.9 7. Joel Heath 44.6 8. Destiny Vaeao 45.0 "Edge Defender" Top 8: 1. Cameron Jordan 95.4 2. Von Miller 95.0 3. DeMarcus Lawrence 94.1 4. Calais Campbell 93.5 5. Khalil Mack 92.1 6. Melvin Ingram 91.9 7. Joey Bosa 91.7 8a. Brandon Graham 91.3 8b. Jabaal Sheard 91.3 Bottom 8: 1a. Frank Zombo 42.6 1b. Ryan Russell 42.6 3. Connor Barwin 43.4 4. Cassius Marsh 43.7 5. Charles Johnson 45.7 6. Anthony Chickillo 46.7 7. William Gholston 47.5 8. Dee Ford 48.5 This ought to be interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Top 7: 1. Casey Hayward 96.4 2. Jalen Ramsey 92.2 3. Tre'Davious White 91.6 4. Patrick Robinson 90.7 5. A.J. Bouye 90.4 6. Kendall Fuller 90.9 7. Marshon Lattimore 89.9 Bottom 5: 1. Kevin Johnson 32.0 2. Phillip Gaines 35.9 3. Dontae Johnson 36.9 4. Juston Burris 37.3 5. Jeremy Lane 37.8 Such a slap in the face for Texans fans. Johnson really came up short in replacing Bouye, and this pretty much sums up how short he came. 5 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Top 5: 1. David DeCastro 92.5 2. Zack Martin 92.2 3a. Brandon Brooks 88.7 3b. Andrew Norwell 88.7 5. Josh Sitton 86.0 Bottom 5: 1. Jeremy Vujnovich 34.1 2. Ethan Pocic 35.7 3. Xavcier Su'a-Filo 35.8 4. Earl Watford 36.7 5. Brian Winters 36.9 Another slap in the face. I hate WHY Rick Smith is leaving, but I'm so glad he IS leaving. Simply not a good GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Huhhh wonder why CB has a top 7 and DLnhad top and bottom 8 while everyone else is top 5. It not like they had a tie at the bottom of the list. Just find it odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Interesting how the Vikings have 1 player on that list (if I scanned it correctly). Harrison Smith, otherwise, apparently just average players. I thought there would be a good shot that Linval Joseph would make the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Must admit, overall it looks pretty spot on. 90% I think are fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, marshawn lynch said: Huhhh wonder why CB has a top 7 and DLnhad top and bottom 8 while everyone else is top 5. It not like they had a tie at the bottom of the list. Just find it odd. I chose to post the top 7 CBs because I figured people would ask me where Marshon Lattimore was. Chose to do Top 8 for the other two positions because they seem like a combination of several different positions so the list was longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Love Bobby Wagner coming out as the highest graded linebacker in the league. He deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, TheKillerNacho said: I chose to post the top 7 CBs because I figured people would ask me where Marshon Lattimore was. Chose to do Top 8 for the other two positions because they seem like a combination of several different positions so the list was longer. Oh you wrote the list based off the PFF numbers... Ok make sense. I thought PFF made a top 5 and bottom 5 list and it was copied and pasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Can any Redskins fans (or someone else who watched a lot of Redskins games) care to comment about Kendall Fuller? I must say I was surprised to see him so high on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Funny how two of the top rated safeties(Smith & Byard) were among the biggest pro bowl snubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumatic Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Well they have Sean Davis exactly where he should be, Mike Mitchell shouldn’t be too far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Love the Cam Jordan grading, dudes been a beast and although he won't win DPOY he's been arguably the most complete DE in the NFL this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 So, their team should be; QB: Brady RB: Gurley, Kamara WR: Brown, Jones, Thomas TE: Gronkowski OL: Bakhtiari, De Castro, Kelce, Martin, Staley DL: Donald, Atkins, Short, Suh EDGE: Jordan, Miller, Lawrence ILB: Wagner, Keuchley CB: Hayward, Ramsey, White Safety: Smith, Amos, Byard. Not complaining there. I'd have more Vikings, but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Vikings have no PFF bottom 5 positional players, one of the reasons we have done well this year & adds to some supportive evidence for potentially carry forward for playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, The Gnat said: Interesting how the Vikings have 1 player on that list (if I scanned it correctly). Harrison Smith, otherwise, apparently just average players. I thought there would be a good shot that Linval Joseph would make the list. well.. top 15 or 20 at your position isn't always average. A top 15 CB, LB, WR and many other positions is still a great player and if you have a bunch of those you have a great team.. So I would say the Vikes have quite a few just outside the list on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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