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They kindoff have to bring back solder. He’s not elite but he’s a good dependable top 12 LT in the league. I don’t see how you trust your 41 year old Qbs blindside to some unproven guy. That’s a disaster waiting to happen

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9 hours ago, mission27 said:

Why would going to Denver have burned bridges?  The guy went there to get paid and win a Super Bowl.  Can't blame him for that.  

Because Denver was our biggest rival at the time. Don't get me wrong, I'd be glad to have him back, but I wouldn't my breath.

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1 hour ago, CP3MVP said:

They kindoff have to bring back solder. He’s not elite but he’s a good dependable top 12 LT in the league. I don’t see how you trust your 41 year old Qbs blindside to some unproven guy. That’s a disaster waiting to happen

I just remember they drafted a big tackle in the third round last year, right? Antonio Garcia. I think Scarrnechia will get away with 4/5 starters returning while training a guy they invested in on the job so to speak.

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3 hours ago, Elky said:

Because Denver was our biggest rival at the time. Don't get me wrong, I'd be glad to have him back, but I wouldn't my breath.

Just doesn’t seem like he kind of thing we would hold against him.  I think the more likely reason he’s not back is cost.

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1 hour ago, mission27 said:

Just doesn’t seem like he kind of thing we would hold against him.  I think the more likely reason he’s not back is cost.

After what they hold against Malcolm Butler... man, Talib ain't coming back.

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4 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

After what they hold against Malcolm Butler... man, Talib ain't coming back.

Things Bill Belichick cares about:

- Breaking team rules

- Not being focused on the game

- Not being prepared

- Running your mouth about a contract and letting it become a distraction 

Things Bill Belichick does not care about:

- The fact that you played for a 'rival'

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25 minutes ago, mission27 said:

Things Bill Belichick cares about:

- Breaking team rules

- Not being focused on the game

- Not being prepared

- Running your mouth about a contract and letting it become a distraction 

Things Bill Belichick does not care about:

- The fact that you played for a 'rival'

Just like how his hatred for Mangini started when Mangini went to the Jets?

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2 minutes ago, Elky said:

Just like how his hatred for Mangini started when Mangini went to the Jets?

It had nothing to do with him going to a rival.  It had everything to do with him trying to poach Bill's coaches on the plane ride back from a playoff loss. 

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55 minutes ago, mission27 said:

Things Bill Belichick cares about:

- Breaking team rules

- Not being focused on the game

- Not being prepared

- Running your mouth about a contract and letting it become a distraction 

Things Bill Belichick does not care about:

- The fact that you played for a 'rival'

I agree, I was mostly just having fun

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Cutting Allen, Bennett, Branch, Gillislee and Britt would gives us 30m in cap space. If you added Ghost (1.5m hit, but owed 5m this year), McClellin (.8m hit, but owed 3.1m) and Davis Harris (0.6m hit, but owed 2.8m) that would give us a total of 34m in cap space to play with. That should be enough to bring Solder (12m per year?), Lewis (5m), Burkhead (3m do we need both?) and Amendola (3.5?) - plus a bunch of the special teams guys who are out of contract. 

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5 hours ago, goldfishwars said:

Cutting Allen, Bennett, Branch, Gillislee and Britt would gives us 30m in cap space. If you added Ghost (1.5m hit, but owed 5m this year), McClellin (.8m hit, but owed 3.1m) and Davis Harris (0.6m hit, but owed 2.8m) that would give us a total of 34m in cap space to play with. That should be enough to bring Solder (12m per year?), Lewis (5m), Burkhead (3m do we need both?) and Amendola (3.5?) - plus a bunch of the special teams guys who are out of contract. 

I don't think you need to bring Rex back or cut cut Shea McClellin right away either. Im looking at Amendola as a luxury at this point to come back since he signed that contract to model and might retire. Don't seem like he wants to retire now, but thats how the Pats must be prepared in worst case scenario with him.

 

Dion Lewis is a luxury to bring back too. Highly replacable. Solder would hurt the most, but for a couple more years it would be worth it probably.

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Way too premature and idealistic final 53:

*Special Teams
Free agent pick up

QB (3)
Tom Brady
Brian Hoyer
Draft Pick

RB (4)
C.J. Anderson: We have shown interest in him in the past. At the right price he makes sense for us.
Brandon Bolden*
Rex Burkhead
James White

FB (1)
James Develin

WR (6)
Danny Amendola
Brandin Cooks
Julian Edelman
Chris Hogan
Malcolm Mitchell
Matt Slater*

TE (3)
Jacob Hollister
Rob Gronkowski
Ben Watson: Still productive despite his age and has played for us in the past. Also provides leadership.

OT (4)
Marcus Cannon
Cameron Fleming
Antonio Garcia
LaAdrian Waddle

C (1)
David Andrews

OG (4)
Ted Karras
Shaq Mason
Joe Thuney
Draft Pick

DT (5)
Malcolm Brown
Lawrence Guy
Clinton McDonald: Only free agent DT that I know that provides a pass rush that won't cost a fortune.
Vincent Valentine
Draft Pick

DE (4)
Trey Flowers
Derek Rivers
Deatrich Wise, Jr.
Draft pick

LB (5)
Demario Davis: Has a better PFF rating than Bradham and his market value is a little lower.
Marquis Flowers
Donta Hightower
Kyle Van Noy
Draft Pick

CB (6)
Johnson Bademosi*
Stephon Gilmore
Cyrus Jones*
Eric Rowe
Aqib Talib
Draft Pick

S (4)
Patrick Chung
Nate Ebner*
Duron Harmon
Devin McCourty

K (1)
Stephen Gostowski

P (1)
Ryan Allen

LS (1)
Joe Cardona

The last 2 slots can be filled via draft picks and/or a cheap FAs.

Edited by Elky

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1 hour ago, Elky said:

Way too premature and idealistic final 53:

*Special Teams
Free agent pick up

QB (3)
Tom Brady
Brian Hoyer
Lamar Jackson

RB (5)
Kerwynn Williams
Brandon Bolden*
James White

LeGarrette Blount

Zach Line

WR (6)

Julian Edelman
Chris Hogan
Malcolm Mitchell

Albert Wilson

Phillip Dorsett
Matt Slater*

TE (3)

Trey Burton

Jacob Hollister

Will Tye

OT (4)
Marcus Cannon
Cameron Fleming
Antonio Garcia
LaAdrian Waddle

C (1)
David Andrews

OG (4)
Ted Karras
Shaq Mason
Joe Thuney
Draft Pick

DT (4)
Malcolm Brown
Lawrence Guy
Vincent Valentine

Beau Allen

DE (4)
Trey Flowers
Derek Rivers
Deatrich Wise, Jr.

Trent Murphy

LB (5)
Derrick Johnson
Marquis Flowers*
Donta Hightower
Kyle Van Noy
Shea McClellin

CB (6)
Johnson Bademosi*
Stephon Gilmore
Aqib Talib

Jonathan Jones

Justin King*
Draft Pick

S (4)
Patrick Chung
Nate Ebner*
Duron Harmon
Devin McCourty

K (1)
Adam Vinatieri

P (1)
Ryan Allen

LS (1)
Joe Cardona

 

Edited by DoleINGout
swapped out Ghost for Vinatieri (GOATK), Cooks for Albert Wilson, Benny Cunningham for Blount, Gronk (retires) for Burton, boldes Beau Allen and italicized the rookie picks. 2 edits

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