Gopackgonerd Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, ArthurPensky said: https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/06/14/packers-podcast-brian-gutekunst-aaron-nagler/703261002/ Haha, There area a few questions in this interview that TT would never have touched. I sorta miss his secrecy sometimes. I liked Ted, but I do like the laidback outgoing personality Gute has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Woah. Quote After announcing the decision to make a change at general manager, team president Mark Murphy initially stated that Thompson's successor could hire and fire the head coach. At some point, Murphy opted instead to retain that power for himself. That revelation came as a surprise to many, including Gutekunst himself. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937399/article/packers-gm-surprised-not-to-have-authority-over-coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Chili said: Woah. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937399/article/packers-gm-surprised-not-to-have-authority-over-coach That's a little scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: That's a little scary What's scary is that we're allowing Mark Murphy to make major personnel decisions, including the Head Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 It's not the ideal situation, but if Gute is comfortable with the situation I think we should be good with it as well. He seems to think they have strong relationships. I think Murphy is a really strong football man .. he will know when it's time to make a change. Hopefully the trio of McCarthy, Gutekunst, and Ball don't start backstabbing one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Chili said: Woah. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937399/article/packers-gm-surprised-not-to-have-authority-over-coach I don't think this is entirely accurate. I think Thompson could wake up one day and fire Mac if he wanted too. Gute has to get Murphy's approval before making such a move. I don't think Murphy can just wake up and fire Mac either. Also I think Murphy would be in the interview process for a new HC, whereas with Ted he wouldn't have been. I don't think Murphy gave himself sole authority over HC decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Chili said: Woah. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937399/article/packers-gm-surprised-not-to-have-authority-over-coach I thought we already knew this? This was a big talking point during the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: It's not the ideal situation, but if Gute is comfortable with the situation I think we should be good with it as well. He seems to think they have strong relationships. I think Murphy is a really strong football man .. he will know when it's time to make a change. Hopefully the trio of McCarthy, Gutekunst, and Ball don't start backstabbing one another. I don't think Gute is comfortable with the situation...at all. What GM would be? But it's what was on the table at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 By the interview with Nagler it sounded like he's fine with it, And I have to think they are happy with McCarthy. The question is though, is Murphy gonna be stubborn in the future to fire coaches and give them 2nd, 3rd and so on chances? I just hope he knows what he's doing if that time ever comes for McCarthy. We don't want a Marvin Lewis type of deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jontat83 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 McCarthy has a lot of power, not sure why he deserves it truth be told but he has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: By the interview with Nagler it sounded like he's fine with it, And I have to think they are happy with McCarthy. The question is though, is Murphy gonna be stubborn in the future to fire coaches and give them 2nd, 3rd and so on chances? I just hope he knows what he's doing if that time ever comes for McCarthy. We don't want a Marvin Lewis type of deal. I really don't think Murphy is going to hold on to someone for the sake of it .. he's knows it's a business of winning, and is aware that the Packers could slip into the abyss if things get lax. I think he just didn't want to get into a situation where they are firing an established coach just because a new GM wants his own guy. You have a successful coach .. you don't fire him without good reason. Another non-playoff season and the situation may resolve itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: I really don't think Murphy is going to hold on to someone for the sake of it .. he's knows it's a business of winning, and is aware that the Packers could slip into the abyss if things get lax. I think he just didn't want to get into a situation where they are firing an established coach just because a new GM wants his own guy. You have a successful coach .. you don't fire him without good reason. Another non-playoff season and the situation may resolve itself. Thats an awfully short leash. Make the playoffs 8 (or was it 9?) years in a row - miss it twice in a row and get canned? Tough boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Leader said: Thats an awfully short leash. Make the playoffs 8 (or was it 9?) years in a row - miss it twice in a row and get canned? Tough boss. Yeah maybe, but I think it would be hard for McCarthy to survive back to back non-playoff seasons. I could be wrong, but it would be a signal that things are going in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Leader said: Thats an awfully short leash. Make the playoffs 8 (or was it 9?) years in a row - miss it twice in a row and get canned? Tough boss. Not at all. I think even MM would admit, "We don't hang banners around here for making the playoffs." Making the playoffs with 12 at QB is a given when he's healthy. Having acheived a no. 1 seed just once in his tenire as coach despite having Favre and Rodgers and the no. 2 seed just a few other times, that's underwhelming IMO. Absent at least a NFCG appearance this year, MM wouldnt be my coach next year, plain and simple (assuming 12 is healthy all year). He has run his course, just like TT and Capers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Leader said: Thats an awfully short leash. Make the playoffs 8 (or was it 9?) years in a row - miss it twice in a row and get canned? Tough boss. Yes it sure is. MM made some mistakes but have to give credit where credit is due. He took action and hired new coordinators. Both brilliant. As far as coaching goes we are in good shape. MM is a fine football coach. He righted the ship and it will show on the field this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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