Forge Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, gopherwrestler said: That's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Via @TransientTexan Regarding pettines last 3 years (his 'worst') as a DC in NY and BUF. Yea I figured you were looking at a different metric. Pure point totals are also deceiving because some defenses have to defend against significantly more offensive drives. From 2011-2013, the most fortunate defenses (least drives faced) defended against around 162 drives (~10 per game). The least fortunate had to defend against ~205 drives. That's like having to play 4 extra games in 1 season, making it much more difficult to compete in total-points ranks. Pettine's defenses were among the least fortunate, having to defend against 201 (tied-#1), 187 (t-#7), and 209 (#1) drives. On a points-per-drive basis, his defenses actually ranked #6, #8, and #11 in those years. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsdef2011 DSR ranking was #2, #7, & #4. (DSR=represents Drive Success Rate, measures the percentage of down series that result in a first down or touchdown. Take-a-knee drives at the end of a half are discarded.) Their Sc% was #8, #9, and #13. (Sc%= Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/opp.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 so with Philbin and Pettine, they've got 2 former HC's as coordinators. i like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchup Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, raiderrocker18 said: so with Philbin and Pettine, they've got 2 former HC's as coordinators. i like that While true, both failed pretty miserably as HC’s, especially Philbin. That said, I really like both hires. Our big three hires this off season (Gute, Pettine and Philbin) bring a lot of new hope to GB of change and progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Surely I thought Pet-peeve would have been blacklisted in the NFL coaching ranks after his quick exit from Cleveland. I'm not a fan of him, given how he treated Johnny Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 6:15 PM, pf9 said: Surely I thought Pet-peeve would have been blacklisted in the NFL coaching ranks after his quick exit from Cleveland. I'm not a fan of him, given how he treated Johnny Football. How exactly did he mistreat Manziel? I'm legitimately curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 7:15 PM, pf9 said: Surely I thought Pet-peeve would have been blacklisted in the NFL coaching ranks after his quick exit from Cleveland. I'm not a fan of him, given how he treated Johnny Football. Did Pettine not give Manziel something Manziel wanted? Did he make Manziel suffer consequences for things that Manziel did? Pettine should be fired from everything forever then. Manziel has always got whatever he wanted and has never had to face consequences, so for Pettine to do that is basically the same thing as throwing a dog from an airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongKong Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 He gets grief, but Pettine as HC was nt that terrible. Browns are beyond a dumpster fire, so making them even resemble an nfl team is a herculean effort. I didn't mind pettine as Browns HC and thought it was ridiculous they fired him. Doesn't mean I think he us amazing coach, but he is a professional coach at least. Does GB have CB n S thst stand out? Pettines system usually needs DBs that can go actually play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongKong Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 We all know manzania was forced on Browns by ownership. I don't hold that against Pettine. Manzania should have been cut in his first training camp while swimming on the goose. But ownership made sure he was knighted instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 1:26 PM, Ketchup said: While true, both failed pretty miserably as HC’s, especially Philbin. That said, I really like both hires. Our big three hires this off season (Gute, Pettine and Philbin) bring a lot of new hope to GB of change and progression. Yes, a lot of coaches fail as HCs but thrive as coordinators: Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Ken Whisenhunt, Todd Haley, Gus Bradley and Mike Smith to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Pugger said: Yes, a lot of coaches fail as HCs but thrive as coordinators: Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Ken Whisenhunt, Todd Haley, Gus Bradley and Mike Smith to name a few. Come on Pugger.........you gotta come up with more than that to prove your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Leader said: Come on Pugger.........you gotta come up with more than that to prove your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 9:51 PM, Xenos said: It's a good hire. I wanted him last year for the Chargers, but I'm happy with Bradley now Also funny that Pettine did more with Buffalo's defense than Rex ever did. Jim Schwartz blew both of their defenses out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 19 hours ago, marshawn lynch said: Jim Schwartz blew both of their defenses out of the water. Perhaps, but Schwartz isn't available right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 21 hours ago, marshawn lynch said: Jim Schwartz blew both of their defenses out of the water. Schwartz should and will get another shot as a head coach. I would have loved for him to be in Green Bay for a couple years until that maybe happened, but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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