kingomi87 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hi Everyone, I have been on here for years but recently changed my name from Omar to Kingomi. I have the 1st overall pick in my keeper league. My league rewards qb TD's for 6pts instead of the traditional 4pts. I have been wanting to draft Jackson using the first overall pick in next years draft but just wanted advice as to whether it would make sense for me to gamble on Jackson or take barkley. I am in need of a franchise qb since I have not had one in years. As of now my keepers are as follows: Mariota Mahomes Cory Davis Melvin Gordon Jay AJayi Cristian Mccaffrey *Evan Engram is also on my roster but I think I should let him go. We have until Super Bowl Sunday to declare keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimsZilla Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Why Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimsZilla Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 barkley could be that one in a lifetime type of players. you cant pass that up for a maybe qb in the nfl. qbs are a dime a dozen, barkley type players are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Honestly Lamar Jackson will probably be there with the first pick of the third round in your rookie draft. If you take him first overall, especially over Saquon Barkley.... that would be more than a monumental mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 20 hours ago, kingomi87 said: Hi Everyone, I have been on here for years but recently changed my name from Omar to Kingomi. I have the 1st overall pick in my keeper league. My league rewards qb TD's for 6pts instead of the traditional 4pts. I have been wanting to draft Jackson using the first overall pick in next years draft but just wanted advice as to whether it would make sense for me to gamble on Jackson or take barkley. I am in need of a franchise qb since I have not had one in years. As of now my keepers are as follows: Mariota Mahomes Cory Davis Melvin Gordon Jay AJayi Cristian Mccaffrey *Evan Engram is also on my roster but I think I should let him go. We have until Super Bowl Sunday to declare keepers. Is this a 2QB league, or a Superflex that allows you to start a QB in a flex spot? If not, then there is no need to keep 2 QB's over a player like Evan Engram. How many teams in the league? What are the starting lineups? These are important questions in providing for others to better understand the decisions you are trying to make/ask about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 @SimsZilla Couldn't Jackson be that once in a lifetime player, just as much as Barkley? We have not seen a qb quite like jackson in a long time. The only comparable qb wouk d be Mike Vick and Jackson is a far better passer. What makes Barkley a lock over Jackson whom you are calling a Maybe QB? I'm only asking because jackson has shown the ability to throw into tight windows make good reads and has an extremely strong arm. Not including his ability to run, the young man has also thrown for over 3500 yards in the last two seasons. @chisoxguy7 My league is a 14 team league and the draft includes both Veterans and Rookies. The 2nd team behind has said that they will pick either jackson or barkley (whichever one I don't pick). Essentially, I'm assuming I'm only gettij g one shot at getting either one so ultimately I am trying to gauge which one wouk d have the best value. If i go jackson, couldn't ibthen come back and drafts guy like rashad penny? Penny had over 2k yards this year in college football and had over 1200yards AFTER CONTACT! Sounds like a Kareem hunt clone and gets very little attention. @squire12 No, this not a 2qb or superflex league This is a 14 team keeper league and the lineups are as follows Qb, wr wr, wr, rb, rb, te, rb/te/wr, wr/te The main reason Why I would like to keep multiple qbs is because this league is qb favored on points. There are significant bonuses for passing yards and passing tds are 6pts as opposed to 4pts in traditional leagues. I figured that by keeping mariota, mahomes and drafting jackson, I would better my chances of landing that ELITE qb needed to put me over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, kingomi87 said: @squire12 No, this not a 2qb or superflex league This is a 14 team keeper league and the lineups are as follows Qb, wr wr, wr, rb, rb, te, rb/te/wr, wr/te The main reason Why I would like to keep multiple qbs is because this league is qb favored on points. There are significant bonuses for passing yards and passing tds are 6pts as opposed to 4pts in traditional leagues. I figured that by keeping mariota, mahomes and drafting jackson, I would better my chances of landing that ELITE qb needed to put me over the top. So go look at the scoring difference between the positions in your league For QB, 5-10 scoring vs 15-25th For TE, 5-10 vs 30th You can only start 1 QB, but you have to start 1 TE and can start up to 3 TE. The scoring differences are that much between the tiers at each position should drive your decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 I don't understand what you want me to do? Sorry I worked overnight and haven't had much sleep. Would you mind elaborating some more? What would you ultimately do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimsZilla Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 @kingomi87 if you wanna take jackson then take him lol. i just cant see ANY reasoning to take him over barkley. do you by chance have the first pick of the second round in this rookie draft? take him there, hell be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, kingomi87 said: I don't understand what you want me to do? Sorry I worked overnight and haven't had much sleep. Would you mind elaborating some more? What would you ultimately do? You start only 1 QB. So the difference in scoring between the 5th QB vs the 15-20th QB in your league is your difference over a replacement level QB You can start 1-3 TE, up to 3-5 WR and 2-3 RB. So look at the difference in TE scoring similar to QB, but with the added potential of being able to start more than 1, the replacement level TE starting needs to be not in the 15-20 range, but the 30th range Example: #6 scoring QB 347 points vs 15-20 QB (averages about 270) = difference of 80 points #6 scoring TE 142 points vs 30 TE ~60 points = 80 point difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 @SimsZilla I want to take Jackson, I just would like to hear good reasonrrasons as to why I shouldn't. So far I havent really heard anything other than Barkley is somehow a once in a lifetime player. It is guaranteed that Jackson will not last in my draft past the top 2 picks and I have the 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thank you. I understand this and will apply it to my keepers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingomi87 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, squire12 said: You start only 1 QB. So the difference in scoring between the 5th QB vs the 15-20th QB in your league is your difference over a replacement level QB You can start 1-3 TE, up to 3-5 WR and 2-3 RB. So look at the difference in TE scoring similar to QB, but with the added potential of being able to start more than 1, the replacement level TE starting needs to be not in the 15-20 range, but the 30th range Example: #6 scoring QB 347 points vs 15-20 QB (averages about 270) = difference of 80 points #6 scoring TE 142 points vs 30 TE ~60 points = 80 point difference Thank you. I understand this and will apply it to my keepers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 There is no way you don’t take Barkley unless you get multiple 1sts in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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