Worm Guts Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, JDBrocks said: If he lets go of that ball towards goal post when the receiver breaks in that's an uncontested TD. I believe he threw that ball to Rudolph for a first down. So the the primary receiver was open and he completed the pass for a first down. I’m not sure why this is an issue. This just feels so agenda driven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Missing a fairly sure TD because he locked on to a primary read is agenda driven? It's an example of larger issue. I'm not the only one seeing these things and calling them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: So the the primary receiver was open and he completed the pass for a first down. I’m not sure why this is an issue. This just feels so agenda driven i think it has to do with this kind of stuff -- Zimmer: "We haven't scored enough points." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Haha do we need to see a gif of Ben doing the same thing on one play, so we can conclude he had poor awareness. Come back and talk when Keenum has won a Superbowl or two. Or a playoff game... Terrible comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Missing a fairly sure TD because he locked on to a primary read is agenda driven? It's an example of larger issue. I'm not the only one seeing these things and calling them out. Why would come off the primary receiver if he’s open? It was a successful play. The Treadwell pattern was slower developing and he wasn’t as open as your suggesting. He had an opportunity to get the first down and he took it.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, vike daddy said: i think it has to do with this kind of stuff -- Zimmer: "We haven't scored enough points." We scored a touchdown on that drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Worm Guts said: We scored a touchdown on that drive. not on that play though. the criticism of not throwing it to Treadwell is deserved. how's the guy going to develop without pass attempts to him? he did his job, he got open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: The Treadwell pattern was slower developing and he wasn’t as open as your suggesting. c'mon... he was more open than the receiver Case threw to, that's obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Worm Guts said: We scored a touchdown on that drive. Aren't we like 9 for 9 in the red zone as of late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, vike daddy said: c'mon... he was more open than the receiver Case threw to, that's obvious. The play was designed to get the first down to Rudolph. There’s no chance he look at Rudolph, sees him open , then look to the opposite side of the field just to see if Treadwell’s more open . If he sees Rudolph open and that’s where the plays designed, that’s where he’s going to go. For it to be a justifiable criticism, you’d have to say it was the wrong pre-snap read and I have no idea about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, vike daddy said: the criticism of not throwing it to Treadwell is deserved. how's the guy going to develop without pass attempts to him? he did his job, he got open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think Case missed a TD on that play. To me, it comes down to pre-snap recognition. Treadwell was isolated on 1:1 wth the DB. Treadwell has the mismatch, therefore, should have been the read. Case should’ve looked off the safety, who went (cheated that way anyway) to the opposite side of the field and made the throw to Treadwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It was absolutely the wrong pre-snap read. Any quarterback that sees 0 coverage in the middle and a cornerback, one on one, playing off coverage should be changing their primary read to that receiver. Even if the goal is to get a first down (which is ridiculous when there’s a chance at a touchdown on the field). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, vike daddy said: not on that play though. the criticism of not throwing it to Treadwell is deserved. how's the guy going to develop without pass attempts to him? he did his job, he got open. I don’t care how develops, that’s not the point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: It was absolutely the wrong pre-snap read. Any quarterback that sees 0 coverage in the middle and a cornerback, one on one, playing off coverage should be changing their primary read to that receiver. Even if the goal is to get a first down (which is ridiculous when there’s a chance at a touchdown on the field). thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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