warfelg Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just like the title shows, here's an offseason mock in which we no longer retain Bell. CUTS Mike Mitchell - $6,371,668 saved Vance McDonald - $4,318,750 saved JJ Wilcox - $3,125,000 saved William Gay - $1,750,000 saved Coty Sensabaugh - $1,400,000 saved Ramon Foster - $2,675,000 saved CAP SPACE REMAINING - $21,483,466 RESTRUCTURES Cameron Heyward - $5,390,000 saved David DeCastro - $2,250,000 saved CAP SPACE REMAINING - $29,123,466 STEELERS FREE AGENTS Ok, so like the title hits at, this is a mock without retaining LeVeon Bell, so using my rollover cap to have for the draft, I can retain our own FA's and spend in FA quite a bit. Roosevelt Nix - Tender at lowest level $615,000 Anthony Chickillo - Tender at the lowest level $615,000 Eli Rogers - 3rd round tender $1,000,000 Xavier Grimble - Tender at lowest level $615,000 B.J. Finney - 3rd round tender $1,000,000 Kameron Canaday - Tender at lowest level $615,000 Matt Feiler - Tender at lowest level $615,000 Mike Hilton - Tender at lowest level $615,000 Chris Boswell - 3rd round tender $1,000,000 CAP SPACE REMAINING - $22,433,466 UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS I'm going to admit to going and doing some "big game" hunting with this money. Most likely more than Colbert normally would. Ezekiel Ansah - Rush - 5 year; $55,000,000 deal, $24,000,000 guaranteed; Year 1 cap hit - $10,000,000 (fully guaranteed) Todd Davis - ILB - 3 year; $18,000,000 deal, $6,000,000 guaranteed; Year 1 cap hit - $5,500,000 DeAngelo Hall - FS - 1 year; $3,000,000 NFL DRAFT ROUND 1 - Ok, big risk here: I traded our 1st, 3rd, 2019 1st, 2020 2nd With the 3rd pick, the Pittsburgh Steelers select: Saquon Barkley RB PSU ROUND 2 - Traded down with Chicago, picking up 3-13 (77) and 4-15 (111) ROUND 3 - With the 13th pick in the 3rd round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select: Ian Thomas TE Indiana ROUND 4 - With the 15th pick in the 4th round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select: Cameron Smith ILB USC ROUND 5 - With the 11th pick in the 5th round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select, Brandon Facyson DB VT ROUND 5 - With the 29th pick in the 5th round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select, Richie James WR/PR/KR Middle Tennessee State ROUND 7 - With the 29th Pick in the 7th round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select, Kentavius Street DT North Carolina State UDFA - Tracor Daniel P Tennessee; Timon Parris OG Stony Brook; DaeSean Hamilton WR PSU; Akrum Wadley RB Iowa; Iman Marshall DB USC ROSTER: QB - Ben Roethlisberger, Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs RB - Saquon Barkley, John Conner, Akrum Wadley FB - Roosie Nix WR - Antonio Brown, JuJu Smith-Schuester, Martavius Bryant, Eli Rogers, Richie James, Darius Hayward-Bey, DaeSean Hamilton TE - Jesse James, Ian Thomas, Xavier Grimble OT - Alejandro Villanueva, Marcus Gilbert, Jerald Hawkins, Matt Feiler OG - David Decastro, BJ Finney, Timon Parris OC - Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Matthews DE - Cam Heyward, Stephon Tuitt, Tyson Alualu, LT Walton DT - Javon Hargrave, Kentavius Street OLB - TJ Watt, Ziggy Ansah, Bud Dupree, Anthony Chickillo ILB - Todd Davis, Cameron Smith, Vince Williams, Tyler Matakavich CB - Joe Hayden, Artie Burns, Cam Sutton, Mike Hilton, Brian Allen, Iman Marshall FS - DeAngelo Hall, Brandon Facyson SS - Sean Davis, Jordan Dangerfield Special Teams: Canaday, Boswell, Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Do not forget to put Shaizer on the Exempt List and save $8.5M. Personally, I would restructure McDonald because he was very good late in the year. I love Ziggy Ansah but he will get franchised by Detroit. I do not like it for the trade. I love Barkley but this draft is SOOOOOOOOOOOO deep in RB is is crazy. Look at kipers top 10 Running backs 1. * Saquon Barkley, Penn State 2. * Bryce Love, Stanford 3. * Derrius Guice, LSU 4. * Ronald Jones II, USC 5. * Damien Harris, Alabama 6. Nick Chubb, Georgia 7. * Kerryon Johnson, Auburn 8. Rashaad Penny, San Diego State 9. Royce Freeman, Oregon 10. Sony Michel, Georgia I would take Rashaad Penny in the 2nd and never look back My bet is ether Rashaan Evans, Alabama or Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech is the first pick. Pick up Edmunds' Brother in the 3rd and it would be a good haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, jebrick said: Do not forget to put Shaizer on the Exempt List and save $8.5M. Personally, I would restructure McDonald because he was very good late in the year. I love Ziggy Ansah but he will get franchised by Detroit. I do not like it for the trade. I love Barkley but this draft is SOOOOOOOOOOOO deep in RB is is crazy. Look at kipers top 10 Running backs 1. * Saquon Barkley, Penn State 2. * Bryce Love, Stanford 3. * Derrius Guice, LSU 4. * Ronald Jones II, USC 5. * Damien Harris, Alabama 6. Nick Chubb, Georgia 7. * Kerryon Johnson, Auburn 8. Rashaad Penny, San Diego State 9. Royce Freeman, Oregon 10. Sony Michel, Georgia I would take Rashaad Penny in the 2nd and never look back My bet is ether Rashaan Evans, Alabama or Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech is the first pick. Pick up Edmunds' Brother in the 3rd and it would be a good haul. Shazier's contract this year was the 5th year option, fully guaranteed no matter what with his injury. Can't be put on exempt list through all my research. I just want to work through things with it. Don't forget the tag for DE is likely to be north of $17million, and Detroit is looking at about $45mil (after draft picks are pulled out) with plenty of holes to have to fix (FWIW we're really underestimating them as a potential Bell suiter). I think with what they have to fix (everywhere else on the DL, LB, OL, RB) they would be a team (like us) better suited to fill out other needs than to dump almost all of their resources into 1 position. Personally I don't think that RB is as deep as they are making it out to be. I think Love is going to struggle, as he hasn't shown himself to be as versatile. Guice, Harris, Johnson, Penny are all more runners, without showing much in pass pro, or pass catching. Chubb is going to be an inside the tackles pound it specialist in the NFL. Ditto Freeman. Michel is going to be a change of pace for the every down back in the NFL as well. We said the same thing in Bell's draft of RB being super deep. That draft had Bernard, who a lot of people liked; Bell; Ball who a lot of people liked; Lacy, who almost everyone here wanted; Christine Michael who was a hot name; Knile Davis who was a late riser; Johnathan Franklin; Marcus Lattimore (our of his control); Stepfan Taylor; Zac Stacey; Kenjon Barner; Latavius Murry; Theo Riddick. Basically it was looked at as really deep, and now you got most of those guys out of the NFL, barely seeing time, or a rotational player. I'm not a fan of either of those guys you said. Evans is a mid-2nd to me and Edmunds looks like a jack of all trades master of none to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, warfelg said: ROUND 1 - Ok, big risk here: I traded our 1st, 3rd, 2019 1st, 2020 2nd With the 3rd pick, the Pittsburgh Steelers select: Saquon Barkley RB PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, JLambert58 said: Barkley could tear up the league with a good OL, problem is RB's aren't worth risking the future over since they are injury prone due to the amount of contact they have to endure. I am more interested in a dominant OL and RD2 or later RB that can get yards we need. We don't need to break Dickersons record, and for me anyways, breakaway speed isn't a must. Penny for example could be a later pick and be good enough with our OL. If connor heals, he might do well too. I also would like RB's to split time with 2 different running styles (like when we had Pegram and Morris for example) I still think with the roster we have the 4-3 would work for the DL we have and then Ansah makes sense at RDE. I don't see why a player would accept less$ to have to learn coverages and play in the cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rivers said: Barkley could tear up the league with a good OL I won't be surprised if he does, but I don't care if he's the second coming of Jim Brown, Walter Payton and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, I wouldn't mortgage the future for any one player, no matter how good he MIGHT be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, 3rivers said: Barkley could tear up the league with a good OL, problem is RB's aren't worth risking the future over since they are injury prone due to the amount of contact they have to endure. I am more interested in a dominant OL and RD2 or later RB that can get yards we need. We don't need to break Dickersons record, and for me anyways, breakaway speed isn't a must. Penny for example could be a later pick and be good enough with our OL. If connor heals, he might do well too. I also would like RB's to split time with 2 different running styles (like when we had Pegram and Morris for example) Few things here: Most RB's aren't risking the future over. Fournette and Barkley are the two most recent ones that I would. Breakaway speed is a must. It's half the reason Conner looked ok, but not starting material in his plays. The other part of it is it's not just running style. For us you need to be able to pass protect, catch the ball, and other things. I'm not quite seeing other RB's in the draft able to do those things day one. Quote I still think with the roster we have the 4-3 would work for the DL we have and then Ansah makes sense at RDE. I don't see why a player would accept less$ to have to learn coverages and play in the cold? What I put as contract is comparable to 2 guys that have similar stats to Ansah: Everson Griffon and Cameron Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, JLambert58 said: I won't be surprised if he does, but I don't care if he's the second coming of Jim Brown, Walter Payton and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, I wouldn't mortgage the future for any one player, no matter how good he MIGHT be. That's the difference. I'm willing to take the risk on something like that. I really am. The Falcons did with Julio and were laughed at when they did. Worked out well for them. Same for the Eagles and Wentz. I'm going to relate it to my favorite musical right now: Your Aaron Burr, I'm Alexander Hamilton. I'm willing to take and take what I need and want. You're talking about waiting for it. We talk a lot about the Patriots around here....part of the reason they can do the things they want to is because they are willing to take risks and go get a guy they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFF Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think Barkley is a top 3 rb 3 years from now...at worst...I still don’t give that much up for a non qb player. Dont think they cut MacDonald if at all possible...when healthy hebstarted over James. Before FA, as long as Bell is gone...Steelers 1st 3 picks will be some combo of ILB-S-RB. Hopefully like in your mock offseason, they address at least 1 spot in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Smith is a guy that I hope they look at at ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, warfelg said: I'm going to relate it to my favorite musical right now: Your Aaron Burr, I'm Alexander Hamilton. I'm willing to take and take what I need and want. You're talking about waiting for it. lol Lots of guys have been killed in duels for being too bold. I'm all for calculated risks - I've jumped out of planes and off of 700 foot bridges, but I don't play Russian Roulette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ziggy would be a dream! That would also mean moving to a 43 as Ansah is too big for an OLB to be dropping into space. No to Barkley. I'm not a fan. Gimme Chubb or Penny. No to Ian Thomas in the 3rd. James and Facyson are solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 hours ago, JLambert58 said: I won't be surprised if he does, but I don't care if he's the second coming of Jim Brown, Walter Payton and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, I wouldn't mortgage the future for any one player, no matter how good he MIGHT be. agree, with the team in shambles, no need to take that risk. With our run, lets hope the Browns don't pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, armsteeld said: Ziggy would be a dream! That would also mean moving to a 43 as Ansah is too big for an OLB to be dropping into space. No to Barkley. I'm not a fan. Gimme Chubb or Penny. No to Ian Thomas in the 3rd. James and Facyson are solid. Penny for sure especially if he is there in later rounds. Where are they expecting him to get drafted? If we can add OL in RD1 and or 2 and Penny after, that would help but then we need to get D help via UFA and later rounds. For Edge if we stay 3-4 , where do you expect Armstrong and Oko to get drafted? Trade dupree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, 3rivers said: Penny for sure especially if he is there in later rounds. Where are they expecting him to get drafted? Penny looks real good. Was surprised that he's projected to go in the later rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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