Ragnar Danneskjold Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Unpopular opinion: Sack totals make a difference, and Rodgers has taken more sacks than Brees even though Brees has played roughly a hundred more games. In my opinion, Rodgers tendency to hold the ball for a long time leads to the higher sack total but also partly leads to a better passer rating and a better TD to Int ratio. While Rodgers may be the physically better talent, in my opinion his style of play detracts from the Goat argument a bit, and I think it may shorten his career as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: Unpopular opinion: Sack totals make a difference, and Rodgers has taken more sacks than Brees even though Brees has played roughly a hundred more games. In my opinion, Rodgers tendency to hold the ball for a long time leads to the higher sack total but also partly leads to a better passer rating and a better TD to Int ratio. While Rodgers may be the physically better talent, in my opinion his style of play detracts from the Goat argument a bit, and I think it may shorten his career as well. so now the questions becomes, Does he hold on to the ball for his own gain or because he thinks it will help the team win. As time progresses my views of Rodgers are beginning to evolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, gopackgo247 said: Does he hold on to the ball for his own gain or because he thinks it will help the team win. Safe to say, both. Rodgers is very competitive and wants to win. I also think he thinks he sometimes needs to be the hero and put the team on his shoulders and make something out of nothing, for better or worse. Finally, I think at some level he's very conscientious of his passer rating and interception/pass ratio, and his pride wants to protect this. The problem is, his desire to carry this team to victory while protect his stats are in juxtaposition* to one another, thereby diminishing the end result. *the fact of two things being seen or placed close together with contrasting effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, gopackgo247 said: so now the questions becomes, Does he hold on to the ball for his own gain or because he thinks it will help the team win. As time progresses my views of Rodgers are beginning to evolve. Going from memory here, but at one time but Mac and Aaron said that TD drives often involve a "big" play. So...they were looking at ways to create more explosive plays. And it worked well, they used Aaron's legs and formulated an offense based on extending plays in order to hit that "big play" and set up more TD's. I think the key is getting Rodgers to buy into the belief that he can check down to certain routes to create those big plays. Only they will come from after the catch. Emphasis should be on getting more first downs to allow them more attempts to scheme open a big play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, gopackgo247 said: so now the questions becomes, Does he hold on to the ball for his own gain or because he thinks it will help the team win. As time progresses my views of Rodgers are beginning to evolve. I honestly think it's to win the TO battle. Mccarthy really emphasised TO differential late in his coaching tenure and I feel Rodgers has really bought into it. The slant game phased out somewhat because when you throw to the middle of the field so much your chances of tipped balls increases and there are more bodies around to catch the tip. I really Rodgers can get back into rhythm and takes some more chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Rapoport: Over the course of the past few days, the Chiefs have talked with players and coaches about defensive coordinator Bob Sutton, whose lack of adjustments has been a non-stop frustration. They moved on today, and a prime job is open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, Leader said: Rapoport: Over the course of the past few days, the Chiefs have talked with players and coaches about defensive coordinator Bob Sutton, whose lack of adjustments has been a non-stop frustration. They moved on today, and a prime job is open. Nagler: Andy Reid is ruthless in a way McCarthy never was. Will be interesting to see if it ever results in a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor1124 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Leader said: Nagler: Andy Reid is ruthless in a way McCarthy never was. Will be interesting to see if it ever results in a championship. Not sure i would call Reid ruthless. Sutton should of been gone last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: Unpopular opinion: Sack totals make a difference, and Rodgers has taken more sacks than Brees even though Brees has played roughly a hundred more games. In my opinion, Rodgers tendency to hold the ball for a long time leads to the higher sack total but also partly leads to a better passer rating and a better TD to Int ratio. While Rodgers may be the physically better talent, in my opinion his style of play detracts from the Goat argument a bit, and I think it may shorten his career as well. He’s also thrown a lot less INTs/ has a better TD/INt ratio. I’ll take the sacks over picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: He’s also thrown a lot less INTs/ has a better TD/INt ratio. I’ll take the sacks over picks Understood and makes sense to a degree - but ARs the one actually taking the hits and I think it fairly obvious its affecting his game and will shorten his career. GB needs to impose a quicker timing - yes, perhaps more boring - offense. Move the sticks. Pick up first downs. YAC. Time of possession. Points. The only reason a less than imposing physical specimen such as Brady is still chucking it as well as he is - is because he's given multiple targets in the 5-15 yard area - AND HE THROWS THEM THE BALL - before the pass rush can clobber him. This may.....curb....the "Geee look at that!" moments from AR - but he'll last or be injury free longer and the offense will move. Its my hope LaFleur can impose better "structure" to the offense. Oh - and we rediscover the middle of the field. It seems to have disappeared from our offense. Short slants. Quick crossing patterns. Those patterns may still be happening - but if so - ARs not throwing the ball there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: He’s also thrown a lot less INTs/ has a better TD/INt ratio. I’ll take the sacks over picks What about sacks and throw aways? We were 15th in Points Per Drive this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: (What about sacks and throw aways? We were 15th in Points Per Drive this year. Oh course they're important, but I think ( and perhaps hope) this year was also a bit of an anomaly. Edited January 23, 2019 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Oh course they're important, but I think ( and perhaps hope) this year was also a bit of an anomaly. Alright, but in the GOAT discussion, you can't just throw away 10% of the sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Ian Rapoport: Dolphins GM Chris Grier left Mobile this morning to head home for their second interview with future head coach and current #Patriots play-caller Brian Flores tonight, source said. They will discuss staffing and officially offer him the job. No negotiations can take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 This was pretty fascinating to read. It takes a while, but has a few war-room nuggets and touches on Pettine's tenure in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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