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7 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

Rodgers made a good point when this thing first broke. When Rodgers was a rookie, nobody gave a **** about the anthem. Guys would still be playing catch or getting taped up during the anthem. Then the Federal Government wrote a massive check to use it for military recruiting/advertisement and it became a big deal. 

The NFL cares about only one thing, and that's collecting a check. 

I'm not a veteran but I've always been befuddled why people associate it strictly with the military, too.

CK and his peaceful protest has never had anything to do with the military. One side is acting more like snowflakes in this debate than the other :)

That being said, I still don't think CK is good enough to warrant the distraction he would cause to most (all?) teams. There are legitimate business reasons why teams don't want him.

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Another thing about Kaepernick as a player-

Seems to me he needs a strong running game to be effective.  One could argue that Frank Gore made Kaepernick, as once Gore left the 49ers, Kaepernick didn't have success.  Again makes me wonder if he has the skill set to play from the pocket and be effective as he ages and loses the speed and durability to be a dual threat QB.

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17 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said:

I mean, Kaepernick's original protest was "sitting on the bench during the anthem" and then at the request of a veteran who pointed out that kneeling would be more respectful, he started doing that.

Lots of players have always sat on the bench during the anthem (Marshawn Lynch anybody?) but it's "what Kaepernick is protesting" not "how he chooses to do it" that rankles people.

This is accurate except it leaves off the third phase - when a certain someone questioned Kaepernick's patriotism. Declared him unworthy of making a living at this craft and ungrateful.

That - gave people the ability to protest Kaepernick - well, because they're all grand patriots dont ya know - and they didnt have to deal with the issues Kaepernick was raising.

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47 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

Be more triggered you ridiculous snowflake. When did kneeling during something become a symbol of disrespect? He's not out here burning a flag. He's not out here denouncing America. Kneeling was suggested by a veteran as a way to show respect while also standing out from the rest of his peers who are standing. 

He's saying it's bad for cops to shoot unarmed people and it's bad for other cops to lie to protect them. I don't feel like this is a controversial opinion to anybody who doesn't think the behavior of police officers is above both the law and reproach. 

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2 years ago Aaron Jones was driving around high off his *** without a driver's license. That's a helluva lot more dangerous than what Kaepernick ever did.

Everybody wanted to draft Joe Mixon despite punching a woman in the face in public on video. 

Tyreke Hill punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach repeatedly until she lost the baby. And then had another instance of domestic violence. And the league didn't even feel the need to punish him. But Kaepernick should be banned from playing?

Kevin King sat for the National Anthem in week 3 a few years ago. Nobody wants him cut.

Aaron Rodgers is all for letting players kneel and sit for the anthem. Are we trying to get rid of him?

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Kaepernick is a ******* idiot. He was trying to make a point that cops shooting unarmed black people is a bad thing, and had no idea, like any of us did, that every white person in America who votes red was going to have an anyerusm over this idea. He then tried his best to ride this thing out as best he could. Did he do a great job of it? no, of course not. He's an idiot. 

Then the NFL owners decided they were above federal labor laws and conspired to keep him unemployed. Something they paid 70-something million dollars for out of court. 

There's a twisted irony in noting that in their attempt to silence the black dude's message about the white establishment trying to keep the black man down, they (the white establishment) committed crimes (or at least breach of contract and fraud) in order to keep the black man down. 

Kneeling/sitting during the national anthem has always been disrespectful. It's two minutes to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice so we can live free. Those things should not be taken lightly. Bad idea to pick those 2 minutes to bring your 'social' justice to the forefront. It's not a black/white thing either. Several former NFL players who happen to be black were totally offended by his actions and the actions of all of those who did it. 

Without getting to deep in the woods. The problem is the statistics do not align with his accusations regarding the police. He targeted every police officer in the country and not ironically, more police officers started to get shot and killed. 

BTW, the NFL weren't trying to silence 'a black man'! They were trying to appease a lot of pissed off fans. Many have found other things to do on Sundays. It's called business. Colin Kaepernick had every right to kneel and be an ******* during the national anthem. It's a protected right, but employers have a right to fire anybody if their actions bring harm to the business. 

I won't wait for your response or your lack of reasoning. You're the smartest guy on the board and have no self awareness! 

Have a good night! 

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1 minute ago, Golfman said:

Kneeling/sitting during the national anthem has always been disrespectful. It's two minutes to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice so we can live free. Those things should not be taken lightly. Bad idea to pick those 2 minutes to bring your 'social' justice to the forefront. It's not a black/white thing either. Several former NFL players who happen to be black were totally offended by his actions and the actions of all of those who did it. 

Without getting to deep in the woods. The problem is the statistics do not align with his accusations regarding the police. He targeted every police officer in the country and not ironically, more police officers started to get shot and killed. 

BTW, the NFL weren't trying to silence 'a black man'! They were trying to appease a lot of pissed off fans. Many have found other things to do on Sundays. It's called business. Colin Kaepernick had every right to kneel and be an ******* during the national anthem. It's a protected right, but employers have a right to fire anybody if their actions bring harm to the business. 

I won't wait for your response or your lack of reasoning. You're the smartest guy on the board and have no self awareness! 

Have a good night! 

Kneeling was suggested to him as a course of action by a veteran in order to show respect. 

He targeted every police officer in the country who was refusing to come forward when a fellow officer did something illegal.

The NFL was absolutely trying to silence a black man. The fact that the pissed off fans wanted them to silence a black man doesn't change that fact. Employers have a right to fire anybody if their actions bring harm to the business, but it's illegal for a business to conspire with another business to try and keep someone unemployed, which you know, the NFL did. 

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3 minutes ago, Golfman said:

Truth! He opted out of his deal and nobody wanted him after that! Those darn facts! 

Facts:

The NFL paid 70 million dollars to not have to provide their internal communications regarding their collusion to keep Kaepernick out of the league to the court and the public. 

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Just now, AlexGreen#20 said:

Kneeling was suggested to him as a course of action by a veteran in order to show respect. 

He targeted every police officer in the country who was refusing to come forward when a fellow officer did something illegal.

The NFL was absolutely trying to silence a black man. The fact that the pissed off fans wanted them to silence a black man doesn't change that fact. Employers have a right to fire anybody if their actions bring harm to the business, but it's illegal for a business to conspire with another business to try and keep someone unemployed, which you know, the NFL did. 

Enough. Take it to Reddit if you want to continue.

 

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The sad reality is CK had no intentions of protesting. It’s a fluke that he let get out of control. Dude was upset he lost his job to Gabbert. Anyone go check the first game he sat on the bench no way he was protesting he was pouting. The pictures say it all. This whole thing burned out of control that’s why he hasn’t said much really he knows the truth he’s a fraud. That’s why his actions never backed up the cause. The clown didn’t even vote. I think the cause is great he can rot in the XFL. Wish the NFL never brought him back up. 

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8 minutes ago, PACKRULE said:

Is this fact or do you have links. 

Last time I looked, no one really knew what the settlement was.  Originally it was rumored to be in the 60-80 million range, but reports originating with the Wall Street journal in March reported Kaepernick received less than 10 million.

Who to believe?  I don't know.  The difference may relate to how much Reid and Kaepernick got and how much money the NFL spent supporting social causes in a public relations effort.

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3 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

Kneeling was suggested to him as a course of action by a veteran in order to show respect. 

He targeted every police officer in the country who was refusing to come forward when a fellow officer did something illegal.

The NFL was absolutely trying to silence a black man. The fact that the pissed off fans wanted them to silence a black man doesn't change that fact. Employers have a right to fire anybody if their actions bring harm to the business, but it's illegal for a business to conspire with another business to try and keep someone unemployed, which you know, the NFL did. 

Some of us salute our flag while we stand for the nation and its anthem, some piss on the graves of the dead who gave their lives for the liberty and freedom it represents.  You are either confused or a race pimp yourself.  Likely a combination of the two.

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Next Kap post that's not about him being a QB and this thread is done.

This is a topic that people have their opinions and they aren't changing, thus no one cares what any of yours are on the subject. If you care to waste your life away there are plenty of forums where you can post such opinions, that won't change the opinions of others in the slightest, and you may do your bidding there.

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