Norm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 RELAX don't do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Spartacus said: What are you talking about? Is the government punishing Gruden for those emails? The 1st amendment has literally nothing to do with this situation at all. trust me, you're completely wasting your time ignore list 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Sometimes I wonder if stupid people know they are stupid, or if their stupidity conveniently shields them from that reality 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Sometimes I wonder if stupid people know they are stupid, or if their stupidity conveniently shields them from that reality Dunning - Kruger in full effect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Norm said: RELAX don't do it I INVENTED THE PIANO KEY NECK-TIE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: The real winners in this is the Raiders organization because they don't have to live up to the entire 10 year contract for Gruden After Sunday's loss to the hapless Bears, the Raiders begged to get the emails released to make sure they could get away from Gruden and out of that contract With people in power, notoriety, celebrity etc, there is a sense that they are above everyone else, because they are, they have worked and achieved to rise to the top and in that sense they feel the law don't apply to them in the same way. Hence there is plenty of dirt flying around, it's just a case of who has it and how they leverage it. The fact that now so much of our lives are recorded and stored, no longer do thoughts live just in our heads or that words can be spoken and things be done and then it immediately evaporates and is gone. It is now etched and recorded and that's why one is forced to self-censor, as it is a double edged sword while we can catch inappropriate activities with evidence, the silly, stupid and risqué also comes under the microscope. It is very scary in a way, as the façade of who we really are, what we think and feel becomes thicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, incognito_man said: trust me, you're completely wasting your time ignore list I actually thought it was a decent discourse till the last message. There isn't really any discourse that can be had with someone who thinks the sky is purple. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Sometimes I wonder if stupid people know they are stupid, or if their stupidity conveniently shields them from that reality Russian bots don't have realities 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Dunning - Kruger in full effect. It's well beyond anything like that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, 15412 said: Oh it's ALL part of the induced "culture" We have our current hack AG threatening parents speaking at school board meetings with FBI storm troopers just for saying something big power government doesn't like about their forced crt or virus mandates. It doesn't matter on every issue if the gov is involved or not, they are forcing the issue one way or another. That's what and where this sound asleep "woke" joke is and where it is originating from. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Sometimes I wonder if stupid people know they are stupid, or if their stupidity conveniently shields them from that reality we, who are often wrong, do not know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, 15412 said: Nobody is down playing anything. The emails I have seen were made when he was not an employee of the NFL or their teams. I haven't seen the majority of them though the way it sounds. It's fine to have an opinion, and it's fine not to agree with another's opinion. But the attack on free speech and the 1st Amendment is very real. I'd like to know what his payoff is. I guarantee you lawyers were involved, and I guarantee you his payoff was substantial. That's because he most definitely did nothing illegal. The "attack" on women really is laughable. His primary attack being he was against women being refs or coaches? Now let's talk about the lyrics in todays rap noise but of course that gets a total pass by the leftist media and their sheep. I think this is where I’m at. The issue I have is it is with a different employer and how many years ago? Like this screams to me a situation that happened months ago where a woman got an editor and chief job at a publication but all of her soon to be team members went thru her social media and found troubling comments and basically stopped the woman from getting hired. She made the comments when she was like 16 or something. Its setting up a situation where people have to be perfect from cradle to grave. Which if that’s the case... cool but everyone needs to know what they are signing up for. And a lot of people aren’t going to be able to handle that type of moral compass. Plus everyone is dunking on Gruden right now... but it’s like Andrew Brandt tweeted, executives everywhere in the league called their IT departments. That would tell me there are a lot of people in the league that can likely have things brought to light too. Maybe not the stuff Gruden did... but likely things that could be seen as problematic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 15412 said: Nobody is down playing anything. The emails I have seen were made when he was not an employee of the NFL or their teams. Nah, he was just broadcasting NFL games for a major network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, incognito_man said: trust me, you're completely wasting your time ignore list No kidding, this person is answering any questions that one may have had about them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Sometimes I wonder if stupid people know they are stupid, or if their stupidity conveniently shields them from that reality It's like a bad parent or bad driver - they think they're just fine, it's the WORLD that is wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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