WindyCity Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 #PhinsAreIn @ThePhinsAreInMiami Current Salary Cap: -$18MOnce Landry sign his tag you will see these four players released:Lawerance TimmonsJulius ThomasJa'Wuan JamesCameron Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, WindyCity said: #PhinsAreIn @ThePhinsAreInMiami Current Salary Cap: -$18MOnce Landry sign his tag you will see these four players released:Lawerance TimmonsJulius ThomasJa'Wuan JamesCameron Wake Lawerance Timmons [5.5]Julius Thomas [6]Ja'Wuan James [9.2]Cameron Wake [8.1]Cap Space Created: 28.8Actual Cap Space: 10 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: Lawerance Timmons [5.5]Julius Thomas [6]Ja'Wuan James [9.2]Cameron Wake [8.1]Cap Space Created: 28.8Actual Cap Space: 10 million It would be a tough pill to swallow on Wake. Dude has been so good for so long, and was still really productive last year. I honestly don't see him being cut at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: It would be a tough pill to swallow on Wake. Dude has been so good for so long, and was still really productive last year. I honestly don't see him being cut at all. You would need to cut someone else of similar value. Even then 10 million is not a lot of money. Even less so when you consider someone like Cody Parkey is going to command 3-4 million/season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampbilly Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, hrubes20 said: It would be a tough pill to swallow on Wake. Dude has been so good for so long, and was still really productive last year. I honestly don't see him being cut at all. IMO Wake could be a trade for a 4th or 5th round pick instead of cutting him. There are plenty of teams that could use a pass rush specialist of Wakes caliber as a 2 year stop gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, WindyCity said: You would need to cut someone else of similar value. Even then 10 million is not a lot of money. Even less so when you consider someone like Cody Parkey is going to command 3-4 million/season. The -$18 million figure includes Landry. There's no debating that he will either be traded or the tag will be rescinded and the Fins will collect the 3rd round compensatory pick in 2019. He's not playing on the Fins in 2018 for $16 million. Landry/Timmons/Thomas all gone gets enough room to sign draft picks. James won't be brought back at $9 million, so either they save all of that or sign him to an extension that pays him much less, which would provide a bit more space for other smaller moves they want to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtownsfine5t Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'd trade Juwan James, Landry, Pouncey, Wake or Branch. Cut Timmons, Julius Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 8 hours ago, WindyCity said: You would need to cut someone else of similar value. Even then 10 million is not a lot of money. Even less so when you consider someone like Cody Parkey is going to command 3-4 million/season. We'll just get rid of Parkey then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Landry is not asking for #1 money. Based on contracts signed in the last calendar year #1 WR money is 16.2 million [Hopkins] to 17 million [Brown] 13-14.5 million is 2nd tier WR money [Devante Adams and Alshon Jeffery] who both have similar per target production over the last 4 years as Landry. So based on production 13-14 million seems about right. Top WRs that primarily work in the slot usually make 7-7.5% of the cap when they sign their new deals. #1 WRs [Julio, A.J, Dez] make 10-11% of the cap in the years that they sign their deals. Randall Cobb 7% Doug Baldwin 7.5% Now neither of those players hit the open market and had any bidding. So based on 7.5% [177.2 cap] Landry asking for 13.3 million/season seems like a reasonable ask for a top slot guy. I expect because of the market forces that he will likely end up north of 14/season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 12 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: We'll just get rid of Parkey then. I would expect most of your free agents to get picked over by other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Schefter reporting that Landry has physically signed the tag so it can no longer be pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsvibe Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Landry's friends are reporting that he is very upset at the free agent market. Supposedly, the highest offer he received from others teams was 11 mil a season average. Landry thought that he could do much better than the 12 ml a year originally offered by the Dolphins, and that wasn't the case. The Dolphins haven't recommitted to the 12 mil contract they offered late last year, so Landry is worried that he is actually going to lose money. Due to this, Landry hasn't agreed to be traded, even though there are offers on the table. What happens to Landry, is going to dictate what happens to Suh. If Landry can't be traded, the Dolphins may be forced to release a couple of players with high salaries. The Dolphins are prepared to cut Suh if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Signing the tag was a no brainier for Landry. Landry's options before signing tag 1. Play for 16 million in Miami 2. Get the deal he wants somewhere else 3. Have tag pulled and get what the market bears Now 1. Get 16 million 2. Get the deal he wants The worst option for him was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, ericsvibe said: Landry's friends are reporting that he is very upset at the free agent market. Supposedly, the highest offer he received from others teams was 11 mil a season average. Landry thought that he could do much better than the 12 ml a year originally offered by the Dolphins, and that wasn't the case. The Dolphins haven't recommitted to the 12 mil contract they offered late last year, so Landry is worried that he is actually going to lose money. Due to this, Landry hasn't agreed to be traded, even though there are offers on the table. What happens to Landry, is going to dictate what happens to Suh. If Landry can't be traded, the Dolphins may be forced to release a couple of players with high salaries. The Dolphins are prepared to cut Suh if needed. Is that right? Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Chad Forbes @NFLDraftBites 2h2 hours ago More Eyes around league looking at Dolphins handling Jarvis Landry's contract situation w/ intrigue. Heard from 1 Exec "Tannenbaum screwed up. And I doubt Ozzie (Ravens) or Dors (Browns) will bail him out. That's a real $16M on his cap. No accounting tricks change it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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